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Hiyamakki
Aug 18, 2020 10:10 PM CST
Can anyone recommend a really giant rose bush that isn't a climber? Tall over wide.
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Aug 19, 2020 12:30 AM CST
Have to be a repeat bloomer?
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porkpal
Aug 19, 2020 6:41 AM CST
Lafter has been a very tall repeat bloomer for me.
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Paul2032
Aug 19, 2020 6:56 AM CST
In my garden Let Freedom Ring and Crowd Pleaser are tall. I don't grow it but Queen Elizabeth is tall.
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Mike
Aug 19, 2020 7:21 AM CST
Portlandia is a shrub rose (not a climber) that reaches 7 to 11 feet tall and 5 feet wide. Check out Heirloom's description of it. Be sure to scroll to the bottom of the page to read characteristics, and where you can read 19 reviews.

https://www.heirloomroses.com/...

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Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
Aug 19, 2020 8:56 AM CST
Lafter is very pretty but its listed height is only 5' . I don't know if it would exceed that in my zone 7. Let freedom ring is a gorgeous red but I think Portlandia looks perfect. It's the definition of a monster!

I've decided to carve out a reading nook at the side of my house where the AC unit and generator currently live. My neighbour is lovely and I enjoy chatting while we garden in the space between our houses but I think a single large bush would give me a little privacy if I put a bench (or swing seat!) in. Some smaller perennials to block the generator and I should be set!

Thanks everyone for the swift suggestions!
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Mike
Aug 19, 2020 9:37 AM CST
Just remember that Heirloom doesn't send its plants as bare-roots; they're sent in "gallon" containers with soil as own-root roses that are active (not dormant), sometimes with the leaves purposefully removed for shipping, sometimes not. They will be smaller than bare-root roses you are accustomed to receiving. They are also more expensive than most bare-root roses, but you'll get free shipping in the continental U.S. if you buy two or more roses (or any purchase above $65). I've purchased six roses from Heirloom this year, have received two of them (with the other four coming soon) and am pleased with my purchases.
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Hiyamakki
Aug 19, 2020 10:37 AM CST
I've never purchased bare root actually. Been a bit nervous to try. May bite the bullet next year because there are a few Austins I want that are only offered by DA (Scarborough Fair, Buttercup & Compte de Champagne).

I have a few roses from Heirloom already (Salita, Raspberry Cream Twirl, Hot cocoa). I'm hoping they have an end of season 30% off sale. The last one they had everything I wanted was of course out of stock!
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Aug 19, 2020 11:22 AM CST
Oh, good, then you know what to expect.

Vishva
Aug 19, 2020 12:40 PM CST
You might also look at White Dawn at Heirloom Roses. I have not grown it but it seems to be the definition of a monster rose. Look also at the comments for it on the Help Me Find Roses website.
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Aug 19, 2020 1:44 PM CST
I've grown White Dawn and it is a climber (it's a sport of New Dawn). I planted mine to grow up the support beams and across the railings of our elevated deck.

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Name: Christopher
New Brunswick, NJ, USA (Zone 7a)
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AquaEyes
Aug 19, 2020 6:23 PM CST
"Darlow's Enigma" gets very big, and will be a free-standing shrub if in full sun -- see Paul Barden's photos of it on HelpMeFind. 'Nevada' is another large shrub.

Just nitpicking, but 'White New Dawn' is actually a seedling of 'New Dawn'. There is a white sport known as 'Weisse New Dawn', and they're similar, but different roses.

:-)

~Christopher
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Aug 19, 2020 6:47 PM CST
Thanks for the correction! However, to further clarify, there is rose named 'White Dawn' and a rose named 'Weisse New Dawn' (which translates as White New Dawn), but there is no rose with a registration name of 'White New Dawn' that I'm aware of.
Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Aug 20, 2020 11:26 AM CST
As a "grafted" silvery pink rose, purchased from Palatine Roses, Eliza Panarosa Kordes 1995, it has grown to 7 feet in height. It has shown to be disease resistant here on Long Island and provides an abundance of flowers with a sheen (see photo).
I think this rose would serve your purpose, however, you might want to also consider a Rose of Sharon which would also provide privacy.



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Name: seil
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seilMI
Aug 20, 2020 5:53 PM CST
Hiyamakki, take a look at Reine des Violettes. She can get BIG! And she is THORNLESS! If you want to put a bench in you won't get stabbed by the rose every time you go by or sit.

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Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
Aug 20, 2020 9:34 PM CST
I will have RdV on the other side Seil! I think I am pretty sold on the Portlandia; the double coloured blooms are so pretty! Another one that is tempting me though is Louise d'Arzens. Not as tall as Portlandia but I am mad for the full, cupped blush flowers. You know how I love cupped blooms Margie!
Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Aug 20, 2020 11:36 PM CST
Yes, I think you are going to really enjoy Portlandia - good decision.

An excellent suggestion - Mike - nice photo too.
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bart2018
Aug 21, 2020 4:54 AM CST
RdV is an ADORABLE rose-colour, fragrance,lack of thorns,graceful habit,re-blooms...Seil, yours is splendid...
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MollyMc
Aug 21, 2020 5:06 PM CST
It's been a while since I have been here and first post sent me to heirloom roses. I ordered the portlandia and 7 others. I'm looking forward to their arrival after 9/14
Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Aug 21, 2020 6:04 PM CST
Welcome back Molly!

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