Daylilies forum→What's up with this seedling?

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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Aug 20, 2020 10:55 AM CST
One of this years seedling, surrounded by it's siblings who look fine. It has been like this for about a month, just noticed it's sending up a side shoot. When I first saw it, I just figured it got the short stick, genetics wise. But it is not dying, it's actually increasing. I spread alfalfa in the spring and applied Sta Green lawn fertilizer about three weeks ago, it was already like this, so fert isn't the cause. Any ideas?
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 20, 2020 11:03 AM CST
Maybe it did just get the short stick on the genetics.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Aug 20, 2020 11:15 AM CST
May very well be. I just can't figure out why it won't die?
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 20, 2020 11:34 AM CST
It really doesn't look that bad to me!
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Aug 20, 2020 12:03 PM CST
This is one the 8 Here's to You Bill Robinson X Floating Away seedlings that I'd love to see bloom. Ain't that the way it always is!?
Name: Paul
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Paul2032
Aug 20, 2020 12:18 PM CST
Looks OK to me. Some are just greener than others.
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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Aug 20, 2020 12:40 PM CST
I would try giving it some more fertilizer but on the acid side. It may be super sensitive to basic or alkaline soil.

I had three daylilies that had yellow leaves while those around them were green. I changed their fertilizer to 30-10-10 for acid loving plants and although it is taking a long time they are greening.
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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Aug 20, 2020 1:58 PM CST
@admmad the fert I applied three weeks ago is 29/0/5 with 2% iron. May be I caught it in time? It's the same fertilizer I used last year, felt it really helped the foliage recover from July.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Aug 20, 2020 3:40 PM CST
beenthere said:@admmad the fert I applied three weeks ago is 29/0/5 with 2% iron. May be I caught it in time? It's the same fertilizer I used last year, felt it really helped the foliage recover from July.


Does it say what kind of nitrogen on the bag?

Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 20, 2020 4:57 PM CST
"Chemical fertilizers containing ammonium or organic fertilizers with protein (amino acids) acidify neutral and alkaline soils. Ammonium is nitrogen and hydrogen (NH3-). As ammonium fertilizers create nitrate, they release free hydrogen atoms to create an acid soil."
https://www.ehow.com/info_8055...
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 21, 2020 4:16 AM CST
Seedfork said:"Chemical fertilizers containing ammonium or organic fertilizers with protein (amino acids) acidify neutral and alkaline soils. Ammonium is nitrogen and hydrogen (NH3-). As ammonium fertilizers create nitrate, they release free hydrogen atoms to create an acid soil."
https://www.ehow.com/info_8055...


However nitrate nitrogen fertilizers can raise soil pH:

"The ratio of nitrate to ammoniacal nitrogen in a fertilizer determines the rate of substrate pH change and can even be used to correct pH during production. The pH changing property is known as a fertilizer's potential acidity or basicity and is listed on a fertilizer's label (Table 1)."

http://www.greenhouse.cornell....

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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Aug 21, 2020 6:37 AM CST
Loved the article at sooby's link. So glad beenthere asked about her seedling, sometimes we can learn so much from the answers others get for their questions.
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SunriseSide
Aug 21, 2020 7:48 AM CST
I agree I tip my hat to you. to Sooby
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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Aug 21, 2020 7:53 AM CST
Threw bag away and can't seem to find the answer on the net, as to which nitrogen types are in this formula. Sorry. Great info from all! Thank you.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Sep 23, 2020 11:58 AM CST
Wanted to share a recent picture of this seedling. Much better, greener and still alive.
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Name: Ian McBeth
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SonoveShakespeare
Sep 23, 2020 9:09 PM CST
beenthere said:Wanted to share a recent picture of this seedling. Much better, greener and still alive.
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It looks very green and healthy. Can't wait to see photos if they bloom for you.
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Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
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kennysh
Sep 24, 2020 4:54 AM CST
Very interesting. Thanks for the question,and the answers. Great article also. Smiling Thank You!

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