Daylilies forum: Prolific Parent Plants

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Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Aug 31, 2020 8:50 AM CST
Forgive me if this has been discussed previously, but I've only been around these parts for about a year. I was looking at the database entry for Forestlake Ragamuffin and noted that it has 245 child plants. That strikes me as a lot of progeny and was wondering if this is, if not a record, at least near the top of the list of parents. It's kind of idle curiousity and I would have done a search using that characteristic, but I didn't see that option in the choices available. I also thought that others might have fun with this topic.
Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Forestlake Ragamuffin')

Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
"Have no patience for bare ground"
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Aug 31, 2020 9:31 AM CST
Lavender Blue Baby @ 336
Barbara Mitchell 314
Nancy these two comes to mind.
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Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
Daylilies Cat Lover Butterflies Region: Tennessee Seed Starter
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shive1
Aug 31, 2020 10:49 AM CST
The one I know that most gold-edged cultivars trace back to is Ed Brown, which has 470 offspring registered to it. There are probably a lot more, but the Salters didn't always list parentage on their registrations. It was said Ed Brown could put a gold edge on a fence post, and many hybridizers used it in their programs.

Ed Brown


Wedding Band was also used to produce gold edges, and it produced 343 kids.


Strawberry Candy has 331 kids

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Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Aug 31, 2020 12:30 PM CST
dance ballerina dance,307
admiral's braid,318
siloam virginia henson,224
ida's magic,449
fairy tale pink,269
J.T. Davis,349 + J. T. Davis,2 = 351
ruffled masterpiece,92
janet gayle,153
stella de oro,172
janice brown,232
Maurice
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Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Aug 31, 2020 12:37 PM CST
Wow, it looks like Forestlake Ragamuffin has some catching up to do! Maurice, did you glean your stats from your own data?

Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Aug 31, 2020 3:08 PM CST
Wow, it looks like Forestlake Ragamuffin has some catching up to do! Maurice, did you glean your stats from your own data?

@nancyindg No, I looked them up as parents in the AHS/ADS registration database at https://www.daylilies.org/Dayl... using the parentage field near the bottom of the form/page.

I have noticed in the past when using that database for similar searches that J. T. Davis has more than one way of being written and that it affected the results of searches.

Maurice
Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Aug 31, 2020 7:21 PM CST
Maurice, I was looking at the National Gardening Assoc. plant database, trying to find daylilies that are late bloomers and only got 1 or 2 varieties. When I did the same search using the American Daylily Society database, which you linked to above, I got 2,958 hits, so the ADS must have a more robust search function.
Name: Maurice
Grey County, Ontario (Zone 4b)
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admmad
Aug 31, 2020 8:12 PM CST
Maurice, I was looking at the National Gardening Assoc. plant database, trying to find daylilies that are late bloomers and only got 1 or 2 varieties. When I did the same search using the American Daylily Society database, which you linked to above, I got 2,958 hits, so the ADS must have a more robust search function.

@nancyindg
I think that NGA uses the joining rule "and" when two characteristics are requested of the same type. So searching for late and very late on NGA means the daylily information has to indicate that it flowers both late and very late.

For the AHS/ADS registration database I think the search joining rule is "or" when two characteristics are requested of the same type. So searching for late bloom and very late bloom finds all the daylilies that were registered as flowering late and all the daylilies that were registered as flowering very late. That number is 2958 for late and very late. For late alone it is 2439 and for very late alone it is 519. The sum of those two numbers is 2958.

Going back to the NGA search. A search for late bloom only produced 2376. A search for very late bloom only produced 515. The sum of those two numbers is 2891. A search for both late bloom and very late bloom at the same time produced only 1.

I have not investigated why the two totals of 2958 (AHS/ADS) and 2891 (NGA) are different.

Maurice

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