Roses forum: B is for button-eye

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Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Sep 3, 2020 9:43 PM CST
Last month I started a series of posts based on a few of the alphabetically ordered topics in John Fisher's book, "The Companion to Roses." I started with "A" for All-America Rose Selections, and that seemed to bring about a good discussion. So today I'm continuing with the letter "B" for button-eyed roses. Fisher writes about them as follows:

"A button-eye is a deformity of the carpel, the structure that carries and protects the ovules, and is distinguishable as a small green boss or pointel in the centre of the rose bloom. However, the term is also often used to refer to the hub of small petals that, in a very full bloom, may be so completely curled over as to show only their reverse sides."

Do you grow any roses with either of these definitions of a button-eye, and if so, do you have any photos to share? Here are a few that I grow that come to mind (I think they qualify)...

Wedding Cake
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Blush Flower Circus (aka Blush Veranda)
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Christopher Marlowe
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Traviata
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English Garden
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jerijen
Sep 4, 2020 11:45 AM CST
"Benny Lopez"
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"Roseville Noisette"
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"The Portland From Glendora"
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Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Sep 4, 2020 12:21 PM CST
Great examples Jeri!
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jerijen
Sep 5, 2020 12:08 PM CST
And one more, Mike . . . "Setzer Noisette":
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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Sep 5, 2020 2:40 PM CST
Lots of beauties!

The only ones I have that could be considered buttons are
Rose de Rescht
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And Reine des violettes
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jerijen
Sep 5, 2020 3:08 PM CST
AH! But you can grow RdV to look as lovely is it ought to be.
Name: seil
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seilMI
Sep 5, 2020 5:38 PM CST
Thanks, Jeri! But I still can't do anything about the cruddy leaves they both get, lol.
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 6, 2020 12:18 AM CST

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I get those button eyes on Perle D'Or


I have always loved the great button eyes on Christopher Marlowe, wish I still had it.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 6, 2020 1:09 AM CST

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I think one of the most charming button-eye photos I've ever seen is your picture of Joasine Hanet (aka Portland from Glendora), Sue:

Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Sep 6, 2020 11:21 AM CST


Perle d Or
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Sep 6, 2020 11:28 AM CST
One of my favorites!
Porkpal
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 6, 2020 1:56 PM CST

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Oh thanks Zuzu for posting that photo, yes, that's such a pretty bloom, took that one at the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden.
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Name: David Tillyer
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BigAppleRoseGuy
Sep 7, 2020 2:55 PM CST
Is this a "button-eye".
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This is the NOID rose that I was asking about last month.
I still don't know its name. This is the best picture of a
bloom that I've gotten from this bush.
David
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Hiyamakki
Sep 9, 2020 6:28 AM CST
Perle d'or is so pretty!
Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Sep 9, 2020 8:39 AM CST
I have it planted in dappled shade and purchased from here:

https://antiqueroseemporium.co...
Observe, observe, observe
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jerijen
Sep 9, 2020 4:31 PM CST
Thought y'all might like to see a BIG Perle d'OR . . .
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And perhaps a group of them:
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Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Sep 9, 2020 5:19 PM CST
Oh my, a Super Colossal Perle d' Or!
Thank you.
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Name: Mike Stewart
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Mike
Sep 9, 2020 6:18 PM CST
I'm gobsmacked! Roses never grow this abundantly in the northeast. Sometimes I wished I lived in California!
Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Sep 9, 2020 8:01 PM CST

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No you don't Mike, not right now anyway, nodding It's all on fire, up here we were surrounded by fires, ash for weeks now! Today we woke up to orange skies this morning, was so dark at 9AM that we had to turn lights on, felt like 9PM. That's from a fire 150 or so miles north of us.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Sep 9, 2020 8:03 PM CST
Scary! Please be safe.
Porkpal

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