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alan847
Sep 8, 2020 1:52 AM CST
My, now deceased wife, bought a rose in Nottingham from Harry Wheatcroft in the 70's.
It was a coffee color and I cannot remember the name. Unfortunately I did not take care of it and of course in the end it did not survive.
Can anyone else recall this rose and if so it's name. I cannot find anything similar online.
Name: John Hunley
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Rose_Insanity
Sep 8, 2020 11:30 PM CST
Might it have been "Julia's Rose"? It was a 1970's release in the UK, re-released in the 2000's by Beale as "Chocolate Rose". It has always been one of my favorites, but it's not very robust in the long run. You can view photos on HMF here:
https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...

Click on the photo tab at the top of the page.
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Calif_Sue
Sep 8, 2020 11:45 PM CST

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We have lots of photos of Rose (Rosa 'Julia's Rose') right here in our database.
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zuzu
Sep 8, 2020 11:52 PM CST

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You can also do a search for all of the russet roses in our database:

https://tinyurl.com/y3977hkh

You can disregard any introduced after the 1970s.
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Name: John Hunley
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Rose_Insanity
Sep 9, 2020 12:29 AM CST
So sorry to offend the powers that be. HMF is my go-to source. Goodbye
Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Sep 9, 2020 7:40 AM CST
https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...

i can't find any sketches of this rose. There are photos of other roses named Peter Pan but they are not the Wheatcroft Peter Pan.

Perhaps, you can find more info in one of his books mentioned in this article:

https://thegardenstrust.blog/2...

Did you get a chance to look through some of photos provided by other members? Did anything ring a bell?

Did you look through your home photos to see if there is a photo of the rose in the background?
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Mike
Sep 9, 2020 8:06 AM CST
John, nobody was criticizing you for using HelpMeFind. We reference it all the time on this forum.
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Calif_Sue
Sep 9, 2020 10:32 AM CST

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Rose_Insanity said:So sorry to offend the powers that be. HMF is my go-to source. Goodbye


@Rose_Insanity, John, I LOVE HMF, use it all the time! Why would I be offended? I was just simply pointing out that we also have images here in the database since many new members may not know we even have one. If they ask a question about a rose, since they are already here on this site, it's usually my first link I add. If they are looking for a source, I go to HMF to add that link.
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alan847
Sep 10, 2020 12:01 AM CST
Thanks for the information John but the rose in question was of a uniform color and much more of a pale coffee color. It didn't look anything like Julia's rose. I seem to remember it was also somewhat smaller.
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Mike
Sep 10, 2020 7:20 AM CST
I thought I had a lead, but have edited it as too recent. Never mind.
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Name: Margie
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MargieNY
Sep 10, 2020 7:20 AM CST
These are links to Cafe:

Rose (Rosa 'Cafe')

https://www.helpmefind.com/ros...
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