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Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :)              SonoveShakespeare Oct 8, 2020 12:57 PM CST |
Hey y'all, I'm wanting to add on to a flower garden making it full of TB irises. Some of the ones I have naturalized over the years have had clumps become hollow in the center (old dead rhizomes); some clumps would have rhizomes that would pile on top of each other (still grow foliage but has less blooms). I've been thinking about ordering some historical TB's; assuming they are pretty hardy when naturalized. I also have Intermediate and dwarf irises that have thick clumps full of foliage and make lots of blooms. (Wishing for TB's that would do the same as my DB's and intermediates). Any Suggestions?  Naturalizing irises and having BIG iris clumps is what I love  lolNot only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Lucy Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b) irises        irisarian Oct 8, 2020 8:26 PM CST |
| Superstition has always been a good grower. it is a dark purple. |
Name: Tom Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)         tveguy3 Oct 9, 2020 4:58 AM CST |
| These are a few of my best growers that seem to defy adversary. Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities," |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 9, 2020 1:06 PM CST |
| Tom very nice! TB Iris Perfection and TB Iris Loreley have caught my eye. I'm going to add them both to my iris shop list for next year. There's an iris that looks very similar to "Going Dutch" near the property line of my acreage, but it's on Leila's side, growing in tall grass close to the fence. I remember I ordered some TB's a few years back dry rooted and received a bonus TB iris but lost it somewhere on the acreage. Maybe when I was mowing one day, the mower blades shot the darn rhizome into the neighbor's yard and eventually established. I'm thinking about going over there next summer to dig it up and plant it in my yard. Leila wouldn't care. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 9, 2020 1:19 PM CST |
| Hoping to purchase some red and black TB's ones that make big clumps fast and have tons of blooms. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Lucy Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b) irises irisarian Oct 9, 2020 8:37 PM CST |
| Before the Storm grew through a big block of ice here one year. Great for cold climates. |
Name: Laurie southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)  lauriemorningglory Oct 10, 2020 11:18 PM CST |
| Before the Storm is a nice black. I've never let it grow in one place for many years before dividing, so I don't know if it would meet your requirement for not dying out in the center of the clump. Same with Dark Passion--a purplish black that looks black from a distance. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 12, 2020 8:14 AM CST |
lauriemorningglory said:Before the Storm is a nice black. I've never let it grow in one place for many years before dividing, so I don't know if it would meet your requirement for not dying out in the center of the clump. Same with Dark Passion--a purplish black that looks black from a distance. ~ Laurie, it's worth a try  ~ Lucy, I'm shocked! I guess it's name fits its purpose. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Lucy Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b) irises irisarian Oct 12, 2020 8:51 PM CST |
| after all, it was hybridized in eastern PA. As I said quit hardy here in New England. |
Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)  AndreaD Oct 13, 2020 10:10 PM CST |
| The strongest growing TB I currently have is Beauty Becomes Her. I had to divide it after two years. It's not a historic, but it is a fierce grower. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 14, 2020 8:08 AM CST |
| ~Andrea, that one is very pretty. I might have to try that one too. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 14, 2020 2:17 PM CST |
Totally_Amazing said: Found this on an older iris forum "My least favorite iris" if Robin says it takes up space then it's a keeper for me.  Unless, it doesn't make lots of blooms.  Kochii is very pretty, I don't have that many dark purple irises. @Totally_Amazing do you still have some Kochii left?Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)    Totally_Amazing Oct 14, 2020 4:42 PM CST |
| @SonoveShakespeare Firstly, I think the iris I was calling Kochii is actually Crimson King. They are very similar. I moved the clump in the photo above and planted them in a row in the front of one of my garden beds.    Since then I have decided that I really don't like the form of the flowers and I have only kept one rhizome to give my garden some colour in winter. Crimson King blooms late in winter and again in spring here in Melbourne. Neon Blue makes a beautiful clump for me every year. I don't know how it performs in your climate.  |
Name: Joshua Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b) Köppen Climate Zone Cfb        |
| Crimson King (or whatever it is) grows well for me. It doesn't have great form, but is hardy and vigorous. Biggest downside for me is that the blooms tend to get wrecked easily by the wild winter and early spring weather. Ian, it's also worth noting that Crimson King isn't as big as today's TBs. It's the size of an IB. 'Saffron Drift' is another that multiplies well for me and has good branching. Plant Authorities: Catalogue of Life (Species) --- International Cultivar Registration Authorities (Cultivars) --- RHS Orchid Register --- RHS Lilium Register My Notes: Orchid Genera HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Traits HTML PDF --- Lilium Species Crosses HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Species Diagram The current profile image is that of Iris 'Volcanic Glow'. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 14, 2020 7:53 PM CST |
Australis said:Crimson King (or whatever it is) grows well for me. It doesn't have great form, but is hardy and vigorous. Biggest downside for me is that the blooms tend to get wrecked easily by the wild winter and early spring weather. ~ Joshua, Crimson King is a classic iris and I like the classics. They're more hardy than most TB's today. "Saffron Drift" is alright, (just a plain yellow tb.) I know someone in town that has some. I may steal a few from him. They grow at the edge of his driveway. I don't think he'd notice if a couple fans were missing.  Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Oct 14, 2020 8:03 PM CST |
Totally_Amazing said:Neon Blue makes a beautiful clump for me every year. I don't know how it performs in your climate. ~Robin, I'm sure Neon Blue will do fine in my climate if it does fine in yours. As long as they're in zones 3 to 10, they'll be alright. You probably water yours a bit more due to your climate I assume. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: daphne san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)   shizen Oct 14, 2020 8:33 PM CST |
| robin love that clump shot of 'neon blue' |
Name: Lucy Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b) irises irisarian Oct 14, 2020 8:37 PM CST |
| TB Stairway to Heaven is a very satisfactory plant. |
Name: John Pomona/Riverside CA (Zone 9a)  CPPgardener Oct 14, 2020 8:59 PM CST |
| I don't have pics and I'm not sure how they will do for you, but 'Pirate's Treasure', 'Batman', and 'Frequent Flyer' have done very well for me. Pirate's Treasure grows so fast I have to divide it every other year so it doesn't grow into the roses around it and they're 3' away! Frequent Flyer is't far behind and here it blooms most of the year (of course we don't get snow). “That which is, is.That which happens, happens.” Douglas Adams |
Name: Laurie southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b) lauriemorningglory Oct 14, 2020 9:09 PM CST |
Totally_Amazing said: So pretty!!  |
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