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Oct 11, 2020 6:01 PM CST
Name: Stefan
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Echinocereus subinermis


Second bloom, at its peak

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Oct 11, 2020 6:19 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Great banner Stefan!
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Oct 11, 2020 7:58 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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Beautiful!
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Oct 11, 2020 8:20 PM CST
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This should be called "Lemon Chiffon", it's so pretty. Great banner!
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Oct 11, 2020 8:29 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
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Amazing banner Stefan!
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Oct 11, 2020 10:03 PM CST
Name: Stefan
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Tbh I am very content with getting this bloom. Ive long yearned to even see an echinocereus bloom, as opposed to the more common echinopsis flowers. Thank you for the likes.
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Oct 12, 2020 4:05 AM CST
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
Spectacular, Stefan! Thumbs up
Could we please see the whole plant, too?
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Oct 12, 2020 5:33 AM CST
Name: Stefan
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EscondidoCal said:Spectacular, Stefan! Thumbs up
Could we please see the whole plant, too?

How about a progression and different angles?
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Oct 12, 2020 7:02 AM CST
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
Perfect! Thanks! Thumbs up
Ever since Baja's echinopsis banner last year,
I've become enamored with these compact cacti that
put out such beautiful blooms.

They look very similar to echinopsis, but in general seem to
have longer spines, though yours is almost spine-less.
Less = better. Smiling

Not sure what separates the two genera (?)
Both can take colder temps, richer soil, & need more water
than desert cacti.

There's a special anticipation for me when I see them start
to bud. I've tried to do a time lapse, but haven't mastered it yet.
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Oct 12, 2020 7:17 AM CST
Name: Stefan
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EscondidoCal said:Perfect! Thanks! Thumbs up
Ever since Baja's echinopsis banner last year,
I've become enamored with these compact cacti that
put out such beautiful blooms.

They look very similar to echinopsis, but in general seem to
have longer spines, though yours is almost spine-less.
Less = better. Smiling

Not sure what separates the two genera (?)
Both can take colder temps, richer soil, & need more water
than desert cacti.




They are very genetically different from one another. Echinopsis, and to extension matucana and cleistocactus, are among the many south american genera, which are more tightly knit together than the north american counterparts(one group being ferocactus, mammillaria and similar related genera, and the other being mostly cereoids(pachycereus, stenocereus, carnegiea(saguaro) as well as echinocereus).
Echinocereus is among both the spiniest and the least spiny cacti you can find


Looks spiny but its nearly harmless


ive had this , no blooms though

this is well
we dont have photos of this
http://www.llifle.com/Encyclop...
Also, if you want something different from echinopsis

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Oct 12, 2020 2:34 PM CST
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
Thanks, Stefan, good to know......all new to me.
I used to grow epiphyllum from seed,
also very amazing blooms.
But I like the compact growth of the echinocereus & echinopsis, et al
even more.

re: Peyote verde......get more than just blooms? Smiling
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Oct 12, 2020 8:50 PM CST
Name: Stefan
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EscondidoCal said:Thanks, Stefan, good to know......all new to me.
I used to grow epiphyllum from seed,
also very amazing blooms.
But I like the compact growth of the echinocereus & echinopsis, et al
even more.

re: Peyote verde......get more than just blooms? Smiling


Not related.
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Oct 13, 2020 2:38 PM CST
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
Yes, distantly related, but the blooms are very similar
to some of the echinocereus & echinopsis. At least
I couldn't tell them apart if only shown the bloom.

I find echinocereus & echinopsis much more interesting
plants, e.g. the shapes, symmetry of spines.

The blooms are icing on the cake. Thumbs up
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Oct 14, 2020 9:28 AM CST
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
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EscondidoCal said:Yes, distantly related, but the blooms are very similar
to some of the echinocereus & echinopsis. At least
I couldn't tell them apart if only shown the bloom.

I find echinocereus & echinopsis much more interesting
plants, e.g. the shapes, symmetry of spines.

The blooms are icing on the cake. Thumbs up






No.... I wouldnt call them similar.... Echinocereus blooms are "full" where as echinopsis flowers are more like a hollow tube, closer to that of cereus and hylocereus///

and




They are much more differently built physiologically(longer flower tubes, different arrangement of stamens and pistil, spines vs hair, color of pistil etc....
If you were to look at it that way, all core cacti would be similar to some extent














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Oct 17, 2020 7:21 PM CST
Name: Cal McGaugh
Escondido, California (Zone 10b)
Stefan,
sorry couldn't reply sooner.
Thanks for the extra pics.....I see the differences now. Thumbs up

I started with 8 echinopsis last year....one ('Los Angeles') in a pot by itself,
and seven all in an 18" pot.....a bit crowded but doing well so far.

I'll probably separate them this winter, or at least putting
3 in a pot, and 4 in another.

Some have put out many pups.
Should I take them off and pot individually or leave them on the mother plant?

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This little dark green one in the middle has bloomed more
than any of the others.

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Oct 18, 2020 6:05 AM CST
Name: Stefan
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Imo a lot of these plants prefer to clump solo. I think crowded pots are very prolific at blooming
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