Roses forum→Anyone have experience with "Nautica"?

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Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Oct 14, 2020 2:52 AM CST
Rose Barni is offering this Kordes rose this year; I'm wondering if I want to try it. Let me add that I am trying to limit myself to getting only roses that I REALLY want-I already have a huge pot ghetto and have five other roses on my list that I know I "REALLY want"! But I am a sucker for lavender-violet ,and this is a floribunda, not an HT; plus,I'm getting the impression that Kordes roses tend to do well for my garden. However I do already have Love Song,for example,waiting to be planted out...Is Nautica special? From the pics on HMF, it does look like a rose that bears many flowers in clusters (which I vastly prefer to those borne singly). In a couple pictures there does seem to be some balling going on, but these are from the Netherlands; in my dry climate this might not be an issue...any comments?
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner 2020
MargieNY
Oct 14, 2020 8:49 PM CST
I don't have this particular rose. Although I have many Kordes roses that do very well here on Long island, I would not purchase this rose because it would most likely ball in my hot, very humid summer climate. I have tried a couple of Austin roses with numerous closely gathered petals and they balled.
Here is a link from Kordes with a description of Nautica:

https://www.rosen.de/en/garden...

Note their description: "very doubled flower balls".

I looked at the 2 photos on HMF where the blooms are balling. As you noted, those photos were taken in Hague, Netherlands in July.
This link shows a graft of the average humidity in Hague.
https://weather-and-climate.co...
The remaining photos of Nautica on HMF were taken in Germany and show no signs of balling or disease.
Based on your dry climate I would ... Go for it! I look forward to viewing your photos of Nautica.
MargieNY
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We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.
Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Oct 15, 2020 6:52 AM CST
Hmm...thanks for your input, Margie. I do hate balling; it can occur in my climate on a susceptible rose during the spring flush,because the weather at times is damp-ish then. The problem is that my rose garden is "all about" that big spring explosion of bloom; after that, anything else is just sort of the cherry on top. I don't have running water out there (my garden is on our woodland property, about 20 minutes from the house),and even if I did, I have far too many plants to allow me to irrigate; things have to rely on rainfall.What's more, the weather usually becomes unbearably hot and miserable by mid-June or so,and at that point I don't much appreciate being out there at all,so a rose that only produces good flowers later on in the season isn't very appealing to me.
Name: Margie
NY (Zone 7a)
Garden Ideas: Level 1 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner 2020
MargieNY
Oct 15, 2020 11:28 AM CST
Glad to hear you came to a final conclusion - now you can move on.
Observe, observe, observe
We are fortunate to "see" & appreciate nature in ways others are blind.

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