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Worze
Oct 19, 2020 3:46 AM CST
Hello Everyone

I have a (wanted) patch of chives in my garden. Over a couple of years, they have self seeded between the slabs on my patio, and in lots of other places. Glyphosate and Pathclear don't touch them. I'd really appreciate any ideas on how to get rid of them. (P.S. I can't get at them to dig them out.)

Many thx.
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DaisyI
Oct 19, 2020 10:55 AM CST
Welcome!

I hear you! My yard and patio are being invaded with volunteer chives. I keep digging them out where I can but in the patio pavers, I have been knocking them back with a garden knife. Find one with a thin blade.

PS: Try not to let them go to seed. The flower heads are nice in salad.
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Worze
Oct 19, 2020 11:27 AM CST
Thx Daisyl

update - I've boiled a kettle and poured lots of boiling water down the joins in the patio slabs, enough to kill the bulbs I hope. We'll see .....
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 19, 2020 11:29 AM CST
Let me know. I have a kettle! Smiling
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SoCalGardenNut
Oct 19, 2020 12:18 PM CST
I cut them down when they have flowers, this year I get no volunteers.
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katesflowers
Oct 20, 2020 8:26 AM CST
I like the knife & dig out idea best.
Those must be garlic chives.
Invaisive as heck.
Took me years to seek & destroy by digging up bulbs.
I put pulled plants in trash bag for garbage day, not composted.
Happy to say after years of diligence, I have not one.
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pirl
Oct 20, 2020 8:29 AM CST
Same story here and, to me, they tasted the same as regular chives. Definitely not worth the work.
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NMoasis
Oct 20, 2020 8:35 AM CST
Thanks for the warning...I was thinking about planting some. Maybe not. Thumbs up
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SoCalGardenNut
Oct 20, 2020 9:48 AM CST
Me too, I have a free seed packet. I must destroy it. I think I have chives and not garlic chives.
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pirl
Oct 20, 2020 9:55 AM CST
If you're tempted to try it, put it in a pot that sits on a few cement pavers and, most importantly, remove every flower or it will throw seeds. The flowers/buds can be used in salads as has been mentioned.
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DaisyI
Oct 20, 2020 10:01 AM CST
I've got garlic chives also. Chives and garlic chives... Lucky me! Rolling on the floor laughing

You can tell the difference as the garlic chives have flat stems while chives have round stems.
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Name: SoCal
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SoCalGardenNut
Oct 20, 2020 10:14 AM CST
I don't even like eating them, I got to get rid of it, it's free from Rareseeds.
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NMoasis
Oct 20, 2020 11:11 AM CST
I have plenty of the generic onion chives and use them constantly. They are very well-behaved, even when I don't deadhead. I don't need a garden bully! Glare
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sallyg
Oct 21, 2020 5:30 PM CST
I havent been able to keep regular purple flowered chives alive, much less get bigger clumps or seedlings. And yes the garlic chives are incredible multipliers. Must deadhead.

But re the chemicals.. possiblly possibly similar to garlic weeds in lawn, the chives are a little waxy and resist chemicals. Maybe helps rubbing them with your shoe to rough them up before using as otherwise directed.
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Heleneschoo
Oct 24, 2020 5:52 AM CST
I have the same problem with my garlic chives. I have been diligently dead heading them the last few years and use a sharp pairing knife to Dig them out the best I can. With some of the tight spots I can't always get to the roots but keeping on top of it has reduced the amount dramatically.
The white flowers can be pretty though. Just dead head them before they go to seed.
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Lioba
Oct 24, 2020 8:58 AM CST
Besides cutting the flowers before they go to seed, have you tried vinegar? Someone mentioned that the chives have a waxy coating, so maybe heating up the vinegar will do it. Vinegar is a broad spectrum herbicide. I'm sorry to hear you guys still using glyphosate and chemicals when there are other effective alternatives.
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DaisyI
Oct 24, 2020 11:54 AM CST
Vinegar isn't a chemical?

Vinegar is an acid. It will kill the leafy part of a plant but very rarely the roots. If you add enough vinegar to your garden, it will affect the pH, making nutrients unavailable to some plants.
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vandamme
Oct 24, 2020 12:48 PM CST
DaisyI said:Vinegar isn't a chemical?

Vinegar is an acid. It will kill the leafy part of a plant but very rarely the roots. If you add enough vinegar to your garden, it will affect the pH, making nutrients unavailable to some plants.


Vinegar with salt boiled into it will take care of most weeds. It leaches out pretty quick and it's not carcinogenic, so we use it on our gravel driveway.

Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 24, 2020 4:17 PM CST
Wow! Hope you never want to grow anything there. Whether salt and vinegar are carcinogenic is up to debate. If you eat a lot of pickled vegetables, the answer may be important to you.

Glyposphate has no residual effects on soil. Its broken down by soil microbes. Salt on the other hand has major residual effects on soil. Add vinegar and I can guarantee it will be a long time before the soil is usable. Before you tell me how 'natural' salt and vinegar are, I would like to point out arsenic and cyanide are also natural.

If people bothered to read and follow the instructions on the glyphosate container, we wouldn't be having this discussion (the part that says wear protective clothing and masks). Also, there is lot of difference between spraying Round-up for a living and spot spraying a few weeds in your yard. Sometimes glyphosate is the best option. Most of the time, my weed digger and some elbow grease get me through.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Heleneschoo
Oct 24, 2020 8:17 PM CST
I have the same problem with my garlic chives. I have been diligently dead heading them the last few years and use a sharp pairing knife to Dig them out the best I can. With some of the tight spots I can't always get to the roots but keeping on top of it has reduced the amount dramatically.
The white flowers can be pretty though. Just dead head them before they go to seed.

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