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Oct 26, 2020 10:44 AM CST
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Hey All-

I feel like I am missing out on some of the newer KV semps and I am curious where is the best place to get his newer varieties? I mostly shop at MCG. I see Young's has a dedicated KV tab, but I didn't see a lot of choices there this spring.
Who carries the most KV semps?

What are some of his most recent releases?

Kevin- Do you know if any new ones are expected commercially this upcoming spring? Crossing Fingers!
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Oct 26, 2020 11:21 AM CST
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Great questions Jesse.
There are three places that I know of that carry the newer Kevin Vaughn semps:
Youngs: http://youngsgardenshop.com/su...
Not showing any Vaughn semps available right now. I would check back in late winter/early spring

Mountain Crest Garden: https://mountaincrestgardens.c...
Not sure which varieties of Kevin Vaughn series MCG will be available in the late winter/early spring

Chick Charms: Not sure what new ones are/will be available?

@JungleShadows Kevin can you give us some information on this?
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Oct 26, 2020 12:25 PM CST
Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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Perrenial Obsessions caries lot's of the more recent Vaughn cultivars. Youngs should have much more stock next spring.
-Sol
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Oct 26, 2020 12:36 PM CST
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Perennial Obsessions: https://perennialobsessions.co...
They also have a wonderful new website. Hurray!
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Oct 26, 2020 12:45 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Jesse,

My new ones do sell out rather quickly so it is a good idea to check Young's, Mountain Crest and Perennial Obsessions regularly for what they might have.

I know Young's still have 'Blue Whale' and 'Mad Hatter' to put out plus MCG should have 'Black Lotus', 'Pink Lotus', and 'Red Zinger' next year and perhaps two others. These all tend to sell out in days, sometimes hours. Just ask Julia!

Kevin
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Oct 26, 2020 12:56 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Kevin, are you working on any new Hosta? Asking for a friend!πŸ˜€
As Yogi Berra said, β€œIt's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Oct 26, 2020 1:08 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
RJ,

I do have some seedlings that I'm observing and have a couple crops still growing on. Won't be anything soon!

Will have quite a few irises hitting the market. You can ask Lynn what she thinks of these!

Kevin
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Oct 26, 2020 1:22 PM CST
Name: Rj
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I'm patient on hosta's., I have 2 sports I'm looking at, interesting to see what happens this spring πŸ˜€
As Yogi Berra said, β€œIt's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Oct 26, 2020 1:58 PM CST
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Thanks Kevin, that makes sense.

I'll bump this thread up in the spring and we can keep each other posted on what we're seeing. I'll have a faster trigger finger next spring! Whistling

When are we going to see some of yours become available, Lynn?
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Oct 26, 2020 3:09 PM CST
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Rj, Kevin certainly does have some amazing iris coming on the market. I love his tiny miniature iris. They grow beautifully with the semps. Just ask Dirt. Smiling

Jesse, Perennial Obsessions is caring a couple of mine, but is out of stock right now.
MCG will have some other new ones, but probably not in 2021.
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Oct 26, 2020 3:26 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
IN (Zone 6b)
@jungleshadows Can we get a teaser for the 'Red Zinger'?
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Oct 26, 2020 4:04 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
I'm not sure if I have a picture Nathaniel. It's my biggest red so far. Very BRIGHT red.

Kevin
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Feb 7, 2021 12:12 PM CST
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@Jungle Shadows
Kevin can you give me the information for 'Red Zinger'?
Date registered/introduced
Parentage

And names of other new ones coming out this year, with their information. Hurray!
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Feb 7, 2021 3:23 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

It has a mother and father! Actually I had to look it up. It's 'Watermark King' X 'Borscht', so a sibling cross. Most of the siblings were purple but 'Red Zinger' is bright red. I have ~50 seedlings from selfing it and they're all red or red with green tips. 'Red Zinger' and one purple sibling were the biggest of the group and also the widest. I think this picks up on the maternal parent of 'Killer', that has very wide leaves. Both 'Waternark King' and 'Borscht' have wide leaves and 'Red Zinger' is more so.

We really don't have registry per se as the Sempervivum Society no longer exists. The listing by MCG would mean that it's '21 introduction as that's the first public offer.

I have a couple more coming out later this year but no names yet. These will be the first of the giant series. Can't imagine how big Melissa will get them!

Kevin
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Feb 7, 2021 3:38 PM CST
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valleylynn said:Rj, Kevin certainly does have some amazing iris coming on the market. I love his tiny miniature iris. They grow beautifully with the semps. Just ask Dirt. Smiling

Jesse, Perennial Obsessions is caring a couple of mine, but is out of stock right now.
MCG will have some other new ones, but probably not in 2021.


Miniature irises? Can you please send me some names, or where to get them???? I love irises and i love miniature ones!
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Feb 7, 2021 3:39 PM CST
Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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That makes sense, I've noticed 'Watermark King' is really more of a very dark red than a purple, and 'Borscht' can be quite vibrant. Glad I caught the first wave of sales on 'Red Zinger', it's already sold out on MCG. I've missed out before and didn't want to make the same mistake again.
I've gently potted it up and moved it to the sunroom so it can ride out the cold while getting established this year.
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Feb 7, 2021 4:59 PM CST
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Alex, here is a very few that are out there. They grow very well with sempervivum.
https://garden.org/lists/view/...

Kevin, what is the parentage of 'Blue Whale'? I don't have it in the database.
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Feb 7, 2021 9:39 PM CST
Name: Alice
Fort Worth (Zone 8a)
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I managed to get one of Kevin's from Perennial Obsessions, but I don't think it was a newer one.
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Feb 8, 2021 9:00 AM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Lynn,

'Blue Whale' is 'Karen' X self.

Sol,

Yes both 'Watermark King' and ' Borscht' have some red glints that enhance the purple and of course both share the red 'Killer' as a parent. I made the cross for large purples and I did get them too. One of these became an almost introduction although the next generation gave some true blacks. One of these blacks has red leaf bases that I find very captivating. It will probably be an introduction.

Yes MCG had a run on 'Red Zinger' right away. They have some others they're working on now. Don't know dates on these yet.

Alex,

Some of the best sources for miniature and standard dwarf irises are Aitken's Salmon Creek Nursery in WA, Scheiner's Iris Garden and MidAmerica Gardens, both here in OR, and Stout Gardens in OK. All of these have websites. I've just written a book on them that should be out in spring. I know that Lynn was shocked at how beautiful the dwarf irises are after seeing mine. They are perfect companions for semps and vice versa. They just scream CUTE!

Kevin
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Feb 8, 2021 9:28 AM CST
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@jungleshadows Yes! Dwarf irises are SO CUTE!!!!!! Do you know where I can buy your iris hybrids?

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