Cactus and Succulents forum→Kleinia petraea, Senecio jacobsenii, not Jade...?

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Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 27, 2020 6:42 AM CST
Hey - i have had this for about 4 mos, repotted it. in transport lost a big leaf or two that are now rooting separately. i was trying to figure out what type of jade it was for awhile by looking up ones with varying leaf sizes/large leafs next to small, etc. and this thing was keeled over when i bought it... put the chopstick in new pot thinking i had to stake it. now im thinking its one of the jade lookalikes Senecio jacobsenii...anyone able to confirm? i think ill ditch the stake and let it do its thing soon if so. trailing jade is a nickname

kind of crazy...from Kenya/Tanzania and i read last night not super common.

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Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 27, 2020 2:17 PM CST
maybe its actually a paddle plant, Kalanchoe luciae?
Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 28, 2020 6:33 AM CST
anyone? uppppp
Name: Donald
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needrain
Oct 28, 2020 7:00 AM CST
I think it's definitely not K. luciae. To me, as far as I can see in the photo, it looks like Crassula ovato that has been growing under lower light conditions resulting in more spacing between the leaves and with the leaves a bit more elongated than when grown with more light. But I'm no expert and am just comparing to what I've seen that I've grown.
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Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 28, 2020 7:09 AM CST
needrain said:I think it's definitely not K. luciae. To me, as far as I can see in the photo, it looks like Crassula ovato that has been growing under lower light conditions resulting in more spacing between the leaves and with the leaves a bit more elongated than when grown with more light. But I'm no expert and am just comparing to what I've seen that I've grown.


the only kicker here is i have been researching and cant find any reference to a jade leaf being 3.5" or 4" long. look at the left side of first pic and the right side of second pic and because of glare, theres a massive leaf there, and one of the same size fell off during transport. it does have red edges similar to a jade but i can find no other reference of a jade with such massive leafs. also, there are other leafs that are thinner or smaller. they all dont seem the same or relatively the same size. maybe it is the trailing jade i thought first because it does want to trail i think.
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Oct 28, 2020 7:38 AM CST
Didn't realize the leaf was that long. True, I've never had one grow a leaf of that size. I'm not familar with a trailing type jade. The general shape of the leaves, the texture and the red tinted edges all look like the C. ovata leaves that were on plants I've grown. How long have you been growing it? Different growing conditions can result in quite different appearances in the growth of plants, sometimes.
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Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 28, 2020 7:41 AM CST
needrain said:Didn't realize the leaf was that long. True, I've never had one grow a leaf of that size. I'm not familar with a trailing type jade. The general shape of the leaves, the texture and the red tinted edges all look like the C. ovata leaves that were on plants I've grown. How long have you been growing it? Different growing conditions can result in quite different appearances in the growth of plants, sometimes.


yeah. im leaning towards that trailing Jade (not a jade) becuase this thing wants to trail. will free-willy her soon.

i have had this plant for about 6 mos. i repotted it immediately. drilled drainge in that pot

Name: tom
dartmouth MA (Zone 7a)
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Hinmo24t
Oct 29, 2020 11:32 AM CST
surely someone in here knows what this thang is?
Name: Charline
Toronto (Zone 5b)
Charlinex
Oct 29, 2020 11:38 AM CST
It really looks like my jade plant Crassula Jack Crosby.

I control its growth by defoliaging and limiting water and fertilizer in a small pot. It is still outside even when the temperature is below freezing in early morning. However, if your plant has always been indoor, I would not recommend putting them outside now.

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Name: tom
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Hinmo24t
Oct 29, 2020 12:10 PM CST
Charlinex said:It really looks like my jade plant Crassula Jack Crosby.

I control its growth by defoliaging and limiting water and fertilizer in a small pot. It is still outside even when the temperature is below freezing in early morning. However, it your plant has always been indoor, I would not recommend putting them outside now.

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you could be right about that. i saw one 'big alice' thinking maybe because of the 4" leafs i have on mine (3"-4") for a few. otherwise yeah, for sure, and thanks for your input. nice looking jade. a few of mine are getting maroon like that.

Name: Charline
Toronto (Zone 5b)
Charlinex
Oct 29, 2020 12:51 PM CST
There are two kinds of Jack Crosby, mine is the regular one, the leaves do get big. There is also a compact form. I haven't seen the actual plant.

CATCNTY46
Oct 31, 2020 11:17 AM CST
That is definitely a Crassula ovata. It looks like it may need more light and sometimes the leaves will grow larger than normal. Mine spends summer outside and some leaves are almost 3 inches long. Do you have it in a good succulent soil? Also it looks like from picture maybe you could trim some bottom growth. They do take some time for stems to harden so using the support is ok to help train it. Mine is over 15 years old and have trained it to look like bonsai. Use soak and dry method for watering and avoid fertilize for a while.

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tarev
Oct 31, 2020 11:30 AM CST
This is how my Kleinia petraea formerly Senecio jacobsenii, just to give you an idea how it looks like and its long trailing growth. I grow this one outdoors year round, ably tolerates our excessive dry heat days with stepped up watering and the gritty, porous media helps it endure our rainy, cold winter season when it comes around. Definitely likes a lot of bright light, but not too much direct sun.
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I took a cutting early this year, it really hated the intense sun, so had to move it to part sun/shade and luckily the cutting recovered.
A strand cutting Jan 2020
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Finally, cutting looking better this Oct 2020, I almost lost it this summer
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Name: John
Pomona/Riverside CA (Zone 9a)
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Oct 31, 2020 11:30 AM CST
Yes, Jade plant. It needs more light.
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Name: tom
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Hinmo24t
Nov 1, 2020 6:15 AM CST
Thanks!!!

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