Roses forum: Au revoir Season 2020

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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Oct 27, 2020 1:24 PM CST
The last of the roses
Watercolors Home Run
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Lowell Thomas
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St. Patrick
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Golden Wings
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Softee
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And the end of trail bouquet of all the buds showing color. Hoping the warmth of the house will let them open
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Coastal Southern California (Zone 13a)
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jerijen
Oct 27, 2020 1:39 PM CST
Lovely. Will all of these be put down for a long-winter nap, soon?
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Oct 27, 2020 4:34 PM CST
AW. So pretty, Seil, but it makes me sad nonetheless. Oh well! I'm already planning for next year, although I still have two more roses I'm hoping to get in the ground tomorrow and a hydrangea to transplant and one to put in its place.
P.S. Can you tell me about Softee. It's been on my radar since I redid my poly bed and I don't know why I still don't have it.
Northern NJ (Zone 6b)
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LorettaNJ
Oct 27, 2020 4:41 PM CST
Beautiful roses, Seil. Are you the same Seil that posts on GB?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Oct 27, 2020 5:10 PM CST
Yes, Jeri, they usually go into winter wraps around Thanksgiving weekend. That's when we normally get our first snow that sticks and the ground is close to frozen by then.

Yeah, Vap, I still have lots to do yet too! Today I planted all my spring bulbs and dug up and stored all my summer bulbs. Lots of stuff still needs cutting back and yanking out!

Loretta, yes, that's me! I'm on Garden Buddies, Garden Web, here and several pages on Facebook. I always use the same name except on Facebook because they use your full name there. It's Sharon Kardos on those pages, Rose Chat, Magnificent Rose, Help Me Find Roses and Garden Obsession. I know there are a lot of other pages on Facebook but I don't think I can handle anymore, lol!
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Oct 27, 2020 5:48 PM CST
Oops! Sorry, Vap, I forgot to tell you about Softee! It's not a poly but a miniature. Still it gets about 2 feet high and wide for me most seasons. It RARELY black spots and blooms in very quick flushes. I've had it for 9 years so it winters real well. If does have some fragrance too! Blooms run between an inch and an inch and a half in size and are in sprays of 3 to 5 blooms usually. One of the best in my garden and a favorite for me.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Oct 28, 2020 7:38 PM CST
The sad part of fall, up here any way, is many years the roses are in truly full bloom this time of year and you simply have cut them off and down.
I have , some years when a truly hard frost, continually not a one day wonder, comes and I cannot get out to them.
They are seemingly frozen in time.
Buds do not change, leaves do not drop, they just sit there like a picture.

I am still a bit anxious about getting leaves for up North ; the lawns around here, with the snow going away are full of leaves and I am hoping they rake them soon, as I will remove the bags for then and sometimes help rake the lawns.
We have fifties coming so time will tell.

The new roses down south is a crap shoot how well they do this winter; up North, they all looked good this summer but a couple I have that , been doing this too long and I do not like how that looks, feeling, so some may be on the way out in few years or maybe not.

In an odd sort of way, I miss not simply burying them, as there is a 98.6 percent chance they will survive, but finding them in the spring and unburying, without damage, was a pain in the buttocks.
Looking at one rose that I cut back down South, I think one I buried years ago and missed is shooting out, but I would bet it is only sucker shoots.
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Tuscany, Italy
bart2018
Oct 29, 2020 5:02 AM CST
It's always a pleasure to read your posts, Seil. Of course, here in my climate,the gardening season is underway; summer is the season in which you can't do anything because of heat and drought. Not that there are flowers in bloom, but this is the season in which it is pleasant to be outdoors (if it isn't too soggy or rainy; cold here is rarely an issue; you wouldn't even think of it as "cold" probably, lol!)
I do miss the people on Garden Web,though I certainly don't miss wretched Houzz. I may try to go back onto it, in spite of my pique at the fact that they did let my contact info become open to spammers-by mistake, probably, but still there are SO many other obnoxious things about Houzz that that is not an excuse for them. Still, I was touched by the fact that one member asked about me, and another very sweet younger member wants to "do" Christmas/holiday cards...
Name: Daniel
Merced/Los Angeles (Zone 9a)
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Dciau1
Oct 29, 2020 7:07 AM CST
oh wow! Those roses are so beautiful!

A big fan of the Saint Patrick!
Northern NJ (Zone 6b)
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LorettaNJ
Oct 29, 2020 6:03 PM CST
seilMI said:
Loretta, yes, that's me! I'm on Garden Buddies, Garden Web, here and several pages on Facebook. I always use the same name except on Facebook because they use your full name there. It's Sharon Kardos on those pages, Rose Chat, Magnificent Rose, Help Me Find Roses and Garden Obsession. I know there are a lot of other pages on Facebook but I don't think I can handle anymore, lol!


Wow, Sharon, how do you keep up? Its good to see your posts again. I was on GB a lot a few years ago and I do remember you and your roses.

Name: Rema
Montreal (Zone 5b)
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Rema
Nov 2, 2020 8:06 PM CST
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Princess Alexandra of Kent and pyrethrum
Here is my last bouquet this season. Today it is completely frozen.
I have already packed roses for the winter until .. May

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Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Nov 2, 2020 8:13 PM CST
Pretty bouquet! Yep, we had snow yesterday and last night. Everything got frozen.
Name: Rema
Montreal (Zone 5b)
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Rema
Nov 3, 2020 8:23 AM CST
Hurray! Happy winter
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Name: Rema
Montreal (Zone 5b)
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Rema
Nov 6, 2020 5:16 PM CST
Girls and boys , how do you cover roses in zone 6 for winter?
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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pepper23
Nov 6, 2020 5:19 PM CST
Just put a thick layer of mulch around them and that's it. Shredded leaves are the best otherwise wood mulch and leave a few inches of space so the mulch doesn't hold the moisture against the stems.
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Nov 6, 2020 9:05 PM CST
The ones I have planted in the ground are on their own. I plant deep so they either survive or I don't need them. I spent many years mulching and winter protecting but I can no longer do all that so only the survivors stay now. The potted ones are enough of a chore, lol! Those are placed all together along the back southern exposure of my house. They are wrapped in burlap and packed with leaves. We usually do this right after Thanksgiving. Most years, depending on the weather of course, we take them out of winter storage around April 1st.
Name: Rema
Montreal (Zone 5b)
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Rema
Nov 7, 2020 4:17 PM CST
pepper23 said:Just put a thick layer of mulch around them and that's it. Shredded leaves are the best otherwise wood mulch and leave a few inches of space so the mulch doesn't hold the moisture against the stems.


The mulch will fly away from the wind and how do you leave free space from the branches? What do you do with ramblers or tall bushes? Are there a photo ?

SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Nov 7, 2020 4:33 PM CST
Rema, which exact varieties are you concerned about as hey vary so much in their hardiness? When I lived in Montreal there was a lot of snowfall to insulate roses and the spring thaws came late. I know it's different now, but to what degree?
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
Roses Garden Photography Region: Michigan
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seilMI
Nov 7, 2020 5:16 PM CST
I've used leaf mulch since 2005. Yes some of the top flies away early on but once it has rained or snowed and they are frozen in place they don't move at all. And I do use maple leaves! I have 6 huge maples that give me all the leaves I need for free. I have heard they aren't good but I have NEVER, in 15 years of using them, had a problem with canker. The key is to wait to put them on until they are completely dormant, and it's COLD out, and then to get them off ASAP in the spring.

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of the beds mulched since I longer do that but here is what the potted roses end up looking like.

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Name: Rema
Montreal (Zone 5b)
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Rema
Nov 8, 2020 9:56 PM CST
seilMI said:

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Am I seeing correctly? Do you put burlap, there are pots between the burlap and the wall of the house, and you pour a lot of leaves into roses ?
Not so bad for zone 6. Better than nothing Thumbs up

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