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Name: Grace
Davidson, NC USA (Zone 7b)
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calgalrrcom
Nov 29, 2020 8:48 PM CST
Has anyone else seen one of these? Just noted today 11-29-20 in my front yard.
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Nov 29, 2020 8:53 PM CST

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I haven't experienced this personally with my plants, but quite a few growers on the forum here have had oddities like that happen from time to time. Some cultivars are more prone to it than others.

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Name: Sherry Austin
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Henhouse
Nov 29, 2020 9:15 PM CST
I've had it happen to many of mine, and as Joshua said, some are more prone.. They are called "chimeras". Awesome Alex is one that seems to go rogue most often for me... Double beards, extra falls, no standards... It's always fun to see. It's usually just one flower, and the rest are all normal. There have been a couple threads in this forum in the past that you could probably search out. Here are a few examples from my garden.

'Awesome Alex' - 5 falls, no standards
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'Stars and Stripes'- one standard, one fall
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'Sharp Dressed Man'- double beard
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Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Nov 29, 2020 9:33 PM CST
welcome to the iris forum, calgalrrcom.
Name: Arlyn
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crowrita1
Nov 30, 2020 6:22 AM CST
It looks like that may be "Clarence"....as was already stated, some cultivars are more prone to it, than others, and, "climate stresses' seem to do it, too. Rebloomers often have more "climate stress"....and the late summer / fall is when I see the most "odd balls". And, welcome !
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Nov 30, 2020 8:58 AM CST
Nice a fused bloom!.... Or some sort of poly bloom? I love it when daylilies do that.

Great find! Thumbs up Hurray! Never seen an iris do that before.

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Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Nov 30, 2020 9:14 AM CST
Henhouse said:

'Sharp Dressed Man'- double beard
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~ Sherry it would be cool to breed irises with a double bearded (fused bloom ) iris to have more of them. But I'm not sure if it would be possible to find double beards on their child plants since these mutations happen accidentally.

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Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Nov 30, 2020 12:11 PM CST
calgalrrcom said:Has anyone else seen one of these? Just noted today 11-29-20 in my front yard.
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Grace ~ Welcome! to the Iris Forum! Hurray!

I get chimeras on Awesome Alex. I will have to check Clarence when it blooms. Thank you for sharing!
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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 30, 2020 3:02 PM CST
Welcome! Grace Hurray!
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Nov 30, 2020 3:40 PM CST
evelyninthegarden said:...I get chimeras on Awesome Alex.


So that's what fused blooms on bearded irises are called, "chimeras".


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Name: Jan Wax
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janwax
Nov 30, 2020 4:15 PM CST

chi·me·ra
/kīˈmirə,kəˈmirə/
noun: chimera; plural noun: chimeras; noun: chimaera; plural noun: chimaeras
1.
(in Greek mythology) a fire-breathing female monster with a lion's head, a goat's body, and a serpent's tail


2.
a thing that is hoped or wished for but in fact is illusory or impossible to achieve.
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Nov 30, 2020 5:04 PM CST

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Chimeras and plants:
https://www.britannica.com/sci...
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Nov 30, 2020 10:19 PM CST
they may not happen on the same plant every year. often on only the first bud, especially during cold springs here in New England.
Name: daphne
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shizen
Nov 30, 2020 11:39 PM CST
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took a picture 'clarence' in the garden this morning; looks like 4 falls and 2 standards. must be raining clarence chimeras, or garden fairies sprinkling chimera dust from north carolina to san diego. Hilarious!

Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Dec 1, 2020 12:28 AM CST
shizen said:Thumb of 2020-12-01/shizen/04a529 Thumb of 2020-12-01/shizen/d84d84

took a picture 'clarence' in the garden this morning; looks like 4 falls and 2 standards. must be raining clarence chimeras, or garden fairies sprinkling chimera dust from north carolina to san diego. Hilarious!


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Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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GreenIris
Dec 2, 2020 10:46 PM CST
Yes...my Clarence is very prone to Chimera's as well!!!
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Dec 4, 2020 11:34 PM CST

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Australis said:I haven't experienced this personally with my plants, but quite a few growers on the forum here have had oddities like that happen from time to time. Some cultivars are more prone to it than others


Clearly I jinxed myself when I said this - for the first time I've had a weird bloom! This is one of the last blooms on the first flowering of a seedling and it has two falls and one standard!

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Name: Laurie
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lauriemorningglory
Dec 5, 2020 12:28 AM CST
They can be quite pretty:

Quench (image appears more blue than it is in true life):
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Dazzling (again, a bit too blue):
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Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
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Lestv
Dec 14, 2020 9:23 PM CST
I get plenty of chimeras. At least a few a year. If you want the best explanation of these wacky blooms read the wonderful response from hybridizer Paul Black in the quote at the bottom of this message.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Feb 3, 2021 1:47 PM CST
Lestv said:I get plenty of chimeras. At least a few a year. If you want the best explanation of these wacky blooms read the wonderful response from hybridizer Paul Black in the quote at the bottom of this message.


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