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Dec 13, 2020 2:55 PM CST
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I have never had any luck with these "Cobweb" hens & chicks & I don't know why!! I've tried several times to grow these & they do the same thing every time. I got several "babies" & lost a few pretty much right away, but the rest seemed like they were hanging in there, but now I noticed a couple starting to do what they usually do when its on it's way out! They start turning brown from bottom till it turns completely brown & dies Sighing!



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Dec 13, 2020 4:10 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Sempervivums? Plant them in your yard. Smiling
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Dec 13, 2020 4:13 PM CST
Name: Baja
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Are those indoor plants? Because Semps don't do well indoors.
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Dec 13, 2020 6:16 PM CST
Name: TK
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As mentioned above, definitely put them outside. Semps are happiest outdoors. Smiling

I grow mine in wide, shallow half-barrels outside, so I can move them around if needed. They've done well like that. I have some of them intermixed with rocks and wood so they can grow over those as well.
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Dec 14, 2020 5:26 AM CST
Fresno ca
They are outside!! I do not have a single plant/succulent/cacti inside! I've never even bothered to try growing any succulent or cactus indoors, I even grow my "houseplants" outside lol Smiling ok so this can't be my problem with these!! any other ideas?? Thinking Thank You!
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Dec 14, 2020 10:36 AM CST
Name: Shawn S.
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I can recall an old one, at a garden center (closed for years, now.) Theirs was planted in a shallow "bonsai" pot. The offsets were on long (barren) stalks, laying atop the fine gravel growing medium.

I think that wet peat moss, (& amount of time, it may take to dry out during winter,) is likely your worst enemy.
Try transplanting, into something without all that organic matter. You also might try to look in Database images here, to give you some better ideas.
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Dec 14, 2020 11:03 AM CST
Name: Baja
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If you like I can move this thread to the Sempervivum Forum where you might be able to get more advice.
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Dec 14, 2020 1:02 PM CST
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ShawnSteve said:I can recall an old one, at a garden center (closed for years, now.) Theirs was planted in a shallow "bonsai" pot. The offsets were on long (barren) stalks, laying atop the fine gravel growing medium.

I think that wet peat moss, (& amount of time, it may take to dry out during winter,) is likely your worst enemy.
Try transplanting, into something without all that organic matter. You also might try to look in Database images here, to give you some better ideas.

I have them in shallow terracotta pots with half cacti soil & half perlite. It just rained here yesterday & that's the first h20 they've gotten for several weeks. I actually thought I may not water them enough cuz I'm more of an "underwaterer" than overwaterer which seems to work well for mostly all others except for these??

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Dec 14, 2020 1:04 PM CST
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Baja_Costero said:If you like I can move this thread to the Sempervivum Forum where you might be able to get more advice.


Thank You!
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Dec 14, 2020 1:30 PM CST
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DaisyI said:Sempervivums? Plant them in your yard. Smiling


Are these also sempervivums just not "Cobweb"??
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Dec 14, 2020 1:37 PM CST
Romania, Mures (Zone 6b)
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Those are not sempervivum for sure.
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Dec 14, 2020 1:59 PM CST
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Hi Pricklyknight, nice to meet you.
Your last photos look to be some kind of aloe?
I see you are growing the sempervivum with different tender type succulents.
A few questions:
What potting mix are you using?
In relation to sun how are the pots placed?

Here is what I see from your photos. Yes the soil looks wet now, but I think they had not been getting enough water during your dry weather (no rain). They are also sitting too deep in the pot and need to be closer to the rim of the pot. I also wouldn't grow them in the same containers with the tender succlents (not cold hardy). Also your potting mix doesn't look right for them.
Here is what I would do:
1. Remove them from the pot, remove all of the dead leaves carefully. Check the roots to see if they are healthy.
2. Repot using something like Miracle Grow potting mix (not potting soil), the one without moisture beads. Add equal amounts of the potting mix and pumice or chicken grit. I find that the perlite floats to the top of the soil so I don't use it.
3. Fill the containers almost to the top, replants the semps and place a layer of chicken grit #2 or small gravel (1/4 minus) sharp, not smooth/rounded. After adding the top dressing the planting surface should be almost to the top rim of the container. This will provide much better air circulation for the plants.
4. If you are into your rainy season you shouldn't have to water at all until your drought season starts up. For me that is July/Aug/Sept.
I hope this was helpful?
Would be great if you could take photos of as you go through the steps, to share with us. If you can use a tripod so the photos will come out sharper.
Looking forward to seeing how they do for you. Hurray!
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Dec 14, 2020 2:00 PM CST
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Milan we cross posted. I agree, they are not semps. Thumbs up
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Dec 14, 2020 2:34 PM CST
Romania, Mures (Zone 6b)
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valleylynn said:Milan we cross posted. I agree, they are not semps. Thumbs up

Well, I agree with you.
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Dec 14, 2020 3:17 PM CST
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Hilarious!
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