Irises forum→ADVICE: SMALL, PURPLE, and TENACIOUS... for a 6 Year Old

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Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
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MamaFan
Dec 18, 2020 9:24 AM CST
I'd love some advice if you all could share your wisdom.
Folks on the forum have mentioned purples that you have found to be reliable.

My girl (6) was browsing iris catalogs with me, and we were cooing and ooh-ing over all the best ones. It was wonderful, it reminded me of going through rose catalogs with my dad, circling the ones we liked. We never bought from the catalogs. My dad just kept tending HIS dad's roses grown from cuttings. I love the memory of shared aspiration with my dad.

I thought, if I can ask you folks for some good advice on something STURDY, maybe I could give her one of "HER OWN" iris to care for. Like... garden training wheels. Obviously with help.

CRITERIA:
1) NOT VERY EARLY
(or early + invincible, because otherwise the inevitable late frosts in Cincy will break her heart).

2) MEDIAN OR DWARF
My TBs have been as tall as her, or over her head.
That may change by next bloom season, but a TB won't really be as easy for her to enjoy as an IB, BB, or DB.

3) PURPLE
purple self, or with purple, neglecta, plicata, I think she'd like anything. She does not seem to like yellow, but she did like ones with yellow features like beards (that may be my fault, I have a ridiculous thing about not liking yellow things. I'm basically The Green Lantern without superpowers or spandex.)

So far, in scrolling through some old conversations, people have liked
* Autumn Jester (early, but is it frost hardy tho...?)
* Smell the Roses (early but ...?)
* Thimble (so cute but early?)
* Jewel Baby (early?)

I wonder how people may have liked
* Spider Baby (mid)
* Posing (mid and so cute)
* Little stitches (mid & re)

Actually if you folks could just spam this thread with non-TB, non-VE purples that didn't die on you right away, that'd be great.
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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Dec 18, 2020 9:51 AM CST
Dark Crystal would be my choice. It one of my favorite SDBs--it is rugged and a reliable rebloomer. I know most photographs in the database show a violet cast, but it is a rich purple here annnnnd...the beard is blue. Big Grin



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Name: Wheezy
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MamaFan
Dec 18, 2020 9:58 AM CST
lovemyhouse said:Dark Crystal would be my choice. It one of my favorite SDBs--it is rugged and a reliable rebloomer. I know most photographs in the database show a violet cast, but it is a rich purple here annnnnd...the beard is blue. Big Grin





I do love blue beard. Blue beards and Coral beards. Love em.
it's really pretty. ... it says SDB midseason and you say its a re-bloomer. Thumbs up
That'd be pretty cool.
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Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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DaisyDo
Dec 18, 2020 12:19 PM CST
Wabash
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Name: Daisy
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DaisyDo
Dec 18, 2020 12:20 PM CST
Wabash was my favorite of my mother's garden when I was 6. The falls are like dark purple velvet, with that perfect wire rim of white, and pure white standards. It's a TB, but not too tall for a 6 year-old. She'd love it. It was a 1940 Dykes winner not too long before my year of birth. Schreiner's still has this neatly tailored historic. And yes, tenacious! It would have to be, to have survived this long in a major hybridizer's catalog.
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Name: Wheezy
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MamaFan
Dec 18, 2020 1:11 PM CST
DaisyDo said:Wabash was my favorite of my mother's garden when I was 6. The falls are like dark purple velvet, with that perfect wire rim of white, and pure white standards. It's a TB, but not too tall for a 6 year-old. She'd love it. It was a 1940 Dykes winner not too long before my year of birth. Schreiner's still has this neatly tailored historic. And yes, tenacious! It would have to be, to have survived this long in a major hybridizer's catalog.


You raise a pretty good point there, about market longevity. It's worth considering.
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Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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janielouy
Dec 18, 2020 2:32 PM CST
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This is Star in the Night which is an IB or BB and not too tall. It grows prolifically for me and I do not remember it being hit by frost. It is a sturdy little thing! It forms a clump quickly.

Dark Crystal is a great bloomer and increaser but it has never rebloomed for me in Kentucky although it might in Texas.
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iciris
Dec 18, 2020 7:51 PM CST
Dark Crystal rebloomed for me in early November this year. It was very pretty.
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Name: Sherry Austin
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Henhouse
Dec 18, 2020 8:28 PM CST
Rick Tasco's 'Dark Wonder' has been a great IB for me.. Vigorous, floriferous, undemanding, and rewarding...
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A deep purple with a little more red, that is all of the above as well, is Sutton's 'Midnight Run'.
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Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Dec 18, 2020 10:16 PM CST
Dark Crystal is a very nice SDB. Jewel Baby often has multiple falls which can be destressing when looking for a perfect flower.
Name: Wheezy
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MamaFan
Dec 19, 2020 9:14 PM CST
janielouy said:BB Code:
This is Star in the Night which is an IB or BB and not too tall. It grows prolifically for me and I do not remember it being hit by frost. It is a sturdy little thing! It forms a clump quickly.

Dark Crystal is a great bloomer and increaser but it has never rebloomed for me in Kentucky although it might in Texas.


I've had my eye on star in the night myself. i think the beard is quite pretty.

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Name: Wheezy
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MamaFan
Dec 19, 2020 9:17 PM CST
Henhouse said:Rick Tasco's 'Dark Wonder' has been a great IB for me.. Vigorous, floriferous, undemanding, and rewarding...
Thumb of 2020-12-19/Henhouse/5a9ed1

A deep purple with a little more red, that is all of the above as well, is Sutton's 'Midnight Run'.
Thumb of 2020-12-19/Henhouse/d9f859



Dark Wonder has that lovely velvet look. pretty color. And "undemanding" is a good trait if the flower-tender is a 6 year old.
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Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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lauriemorningglory
Dec 19, 2020 10:08 PM CST
I just acquired SDBs: Autumn Jester and Jewel Baby, so I can't comment yet on their performance for me; however, I had read a comment from another forum member that Autumn Jester rebloomed multiple times for them (zone 5)!

I am also trying to acquire SDB Forever Royal, which according to the hybridizer (Chapman) is a very good rebloomer. But it is still fairly new (so limited supply) and this past year Covid interfered with shipping from Canada. I hoping for next year!

One plus with smaller irises is that when you go to dig and divide the clumps after a few years, they are much easier to handle than the TBs, especially for a little girl.

Autumn Jester:


Jewel Baby:


Forever Royal:
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Gretchenlasater
Dec 20, 2020 2:23 PM CST
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I suggest Int Bearded Doe z Doe. VERY TENACIOUS! It blooms well, has a fun name, and being a "broken" iris (color pattern), no two blooms are ever the same! I've tried to kill it several times and it always makes it back. Here it is blooming today, in Northern California where we have had weeks of frost.
Name: Wheezy
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MamaFan
Dec 22, 2020 8:21 AM CST
I googled for Dark Wonder, and I didn't find anyone selling it.

In an image search I ended up finding Royal Wonder on the iris society blog.
I didn't find anyone selling that one either. Very cute tho. Shrug!

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C-A...

I looked up Forever Royal and it looks like it *was from Chapman, but I didn't find anyone selling that either.
it shows up on pinterest a bit though.
Shrug! Shrug!

There are some very deep purples in the Stout catalog. I was thinking of giving one of those a try, when she pointed at Beckoning.
https://www.stoutgardens.com/p... which is an SDB midseason.

Anyone grow Beckoning? Purple with Yellow beards. That might be the one I give a try.
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Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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lauriemorningglory
Dec 22, 2020 10:38 PM CST
I don't grow it, but the description says it has a sweet fragrance---that's always a plus for me. Smiling
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Dec 22, 2020 10:39 PM CST
No but Tom's SDBs grow well here in New England.
Name: Gary
Pennsylvania (Zone 6a)
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MochaJoe
Dec 26, 2020 8:39 AM CST
Never ordered from Stouts will have to check them out. Anyone ever have deer eating your iris.?
Name: Teresa Cole
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ttkc4704
Dec 26, 2020 9:23 AM CST
Eleanor Roosevelt, intermediate, mid bloom season, purple, reliable, reblooming .

https://garden.org/pics/2016-0...
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Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
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MamaFan
Dec 28, 2020 9:50 PM CST
MochaJoe said:Never ordered from Stouts will have to check them out. Anyone ever have deer eating your iris.?


The adults don't here.
Occasionally- not always- there is damage from light browsing, but it is never significant and doesn't recur. The fawns haven't yet learned that they are a poisonous. They graze once and then never again.

I've never ordered from stout's either. 😁
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