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Dec 18, 2020 9:24 AM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
I'd love some advice if you all could share your wisdom.
Folks on the forum have mentioned purples that you have found to be reliable.

My girl (6) was browsing iris catalogs with me, and we were cooing and ooh-ing over all the best ones. It was wonderful, it reminded me of going through rose catalogs with my dad, circling the ones we liked. We never bought from the catalogs. My dad just kept tending HIS dad's roses grown from cuttings. I love the memory of shared aspiration with my dad.

I thought, if I can ask you folks for some good advice on something STURDY, maybe I could give her one of "HER OWN" iris to care for. Like... garden training wheels. Obviously with help.

CRITERIA:
1) NOT VERY EARLY
(or early + invincible, because otherwise the inevitable late frosts in Cincy will break her heart).

2) MEDIAN OR DWARF
My TBs have been as tall as her, or over her head.
That may change by next bloom season, but a TB won't really be as easy for her to enjoy as an IB, BB, or DB.

3) PURPLE
purple self, or with purple, neglecta, plicata, I think she'd like anything. She does not seem to like yellow, but she did like ones with yellow features like beards (that may be my fault, I have a ridiculous thing about not liking yellow things. I'm basically The Green Lantern without superpowers or spandex.)

So far, in scrolling through some old conversations, people have liked
* Autumn Jester (early, but is it frost hardy tho...?)
* Smell the Roses (early but ...?)
* Thimble (so cute but early?)
* Jewel Baby (early?)

I wonder how people may have liked
* Spider Baby (mid)
* Posing (mid and so cute)
* Little stitches (mid & re)

Actually if you folks could just spam this thread with non-TB, non-VE purples that didn't die on you right away, that'd be great.
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Dec 18, 2020 9:51 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
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Dark Crystal would be my choice. It one of my favorite SDBs--it is rugged and a reliable rebloomer. I know most photographs in the database show a violet cast, but it is a rich purple here annnnnd...the beard is blue. Big Grin

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Dec 18, 2020 9:58 AM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
lovemyhouse said:Dark Crystal would be my choice. It one of my favorite SDBs--it is rugged and a reliable rebloomer. I know most photographs in the database show a violet cast, but it is a rich purple here annnnnd...the beard is blue. Big Grin





I do love blue beard. Blue beards and Coral beards. Love em.
it's really pretty. ... it says SDB midseason and you say its a re-bloomer. Thumbs up
That'd be pretty cool.
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Dec 18, 2020 12:19 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
Amaryllis Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Maryland Organic Gardener Irises Herbs
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Dec 18, 2020 12:20 PM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
Amaryllis Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Maryland Organic Gardener Irises Herbs
Hellebores Growing under artificial light Container Gardener Cat Lover Bulbs Bookworm
Wabash was my favorite of my mother's garden when I was 6. The falls are like dark purple velvet, with that perfect wire rim of white, and pure white standards. It's a TB, but not too tall for a 6 year-old. She'd love it. It was a 1940 Dykes winner not too long before my year of birth. Schreiner's still has this neatly tailored historic. And yes, tenacious! It would have to be, to have survived this long in a major hybridizer's catalog.
-"If I can’t drain a swamp, I’ll go pull some weeds." - Charles Williams
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Dec 18, 2020 1:11 PM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
DaisyDo said:Wabash was my favorite of my mother's garden when I was 6. The falls are like dark purple velvet, with that perfect wire rim of white, and pure white standards. It's a TB, but not too tall for a 6 year-old. She'd love it. It was a 1940 Dykes winner not too long before my year of birth. Schreiner's still has this neatly tailored historic. And yes, tenacious! It would have to be, to have survived this long in a major hybridizer's catalog.


You raise a pretty good point there, about market longevity. It's worth considering.
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Dec 18, 2020 2:32 PM CST
Name: Jane H.
Kentucky (Zone 6b)
Birds Region: Kentucky Clematis Daylilies Irises Region: United States of America
BB Code:
This is Star in the Night which is an IB or BB and not too tall. It grows prolifically for me and I do not remember it being hit by frost. It is a sturdy little thing! It forms a clump quickly.

Dark Crystal is a great bloomer and increaser but it has never rebloomed for me in Kentucky although it might in Texas.
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Dec 18, 2020 7:51 PM CST
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Dark Crystal rebloomed for me in early November this year. It was very pretty.
Edit to correct 'is' to 'it'
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Dec 18, 2020 8:28 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Rick Tasco's 'Dark Wonder' has been a great IB for me.. Vigorous, floriferous, undemanding, and rewarding...
Thumb of 2020-12-19/Henhouse/5a9ed1

A deep purple with a little more red, that is all of the above as well, is Sutton's 'Midnight Run'.
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Dec 18, 2020 10:16 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Dark Crystal is a very nice SDB. Jewel Baby often has multiple falls which can be destressing when looking for a perfect flower.
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Dec 19, 2020 9:14 PM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
janielouy said:BB Code:
This is Star in the Night which is an IB or BB and not too tall. It grows prolifically for me and I do not remember it being hit by frost. It is a sturdy little thing! It forms a clump quickly.

Dark Crystal is a great bloomer and increaser but it has never rebloomed for me in Kentucky although it might in Texas.


I've had my eye on star in the night myself. i think the beard is quite pretty.
The Allergic Gardener salutes all of you wheezing on your hands and knees in the garden for love of your flowers.
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Dec 19, 2020 9:17 PM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
Henhouse said:Rick Tasco's 'Dark Wonder' has been a great IB for me.. Vigorous, floriferous, undemanding, and rewarding...
Thumb of 2020-12-19/Henhouse/5a9ed1

A deep purple with a little more red, that is all of the above as well, is Sutton's 'Midnight Run'.
Thumb of 2020-12-19/Henhouse/d9f859



Dark Wonder has that lovely velvet look. pretty color. And "undemanding" is a good trait if the flower-tender is a 6 year old.
The Allergic Gardener salutes all of you wheezing on your hands and knees in the garden for love of your flowers.
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Dec 19, 2020 10:08 PM CST
Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Irises Butterflies Bee Lover Bulbs Cat Lover Region: Nebraska
I just acquired SDBs: Autumn Jester and Jewel Baby, so I can't comment yet on their performance for me; however, I had read a comment from another forum member that Autumn Jester rebloomed multiple times for them (zone 5)!

I am also trying to acquire SDB Forever Royal, which according to the hybridizer (Chapman) is a very good rebloomer. But it is still fairly new (so limited supply) and this past year Covid interfered with shipping from Canada. I hoping for next year!

One plus with smaller irises is that when you go to dig and divide the clumps after a few years, they are much easier to handle than the TBs, especially for a little girl.

Autumn Jester:


Jewel Baby:


Forever Royal:
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Dec 20, 2020 2:23 PM CST
(Zone 9a)
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Hybridizer Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader
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I suggest Int Bearded Doe z Doe. VERY TENACIOUS! It blooms well, has a fun name, and being a "broken" iris (color pattern), no two blooms are ever the same! I've tried to kill it several times and it always makes it back. Here it is blooming today, in Northern California where we have had weeks of frost.
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Dec 22, 2020 8:21 AM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
I googled for Dark Wonder, and I didn't find anyone selling it.

In an image search I ended up finding Royal Wonder on the iris society blog.
I didn't find anyone selling that one either. Very cute tho. Shrug!

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C-A...

I looked up Forever Royal and it looks like it *was from Chapman, but I didn't find anyone selling that either.
it shows up on pinterest a bit though.
Shrug! Shrug!

There are some very deep purples in the Stout catalog. I was thinking of giving one of those a try, when she pointed at Beckoning.
https://www.stoutgardens.com/p... which is an SDB midseason.

Anyone grow Beckoning? Purple with Yellow beards. That might be the one I give a try.
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Dec 22, 2020 10:38 PM CST
Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Irises Butterflies Bee Lover Bulbs Cat Lover Region: Nebraska
I don't grow it, but the description says it has a sweet fragrance---that's always a plus for me. Smiling
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Dec 22, 2020 10:39 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
irises
Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener Irises Region: Northeast US Region: United Kingdom Region: United States of America
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
No but Tom's SDBs grow well here in New England.
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Dec 26, 2020 8:39 AM CST
Name: Gary
Pennsylvania (Zone 6a)
Never ordered from Stouts will have to check them out. Anyone ever have deer eating your iris.?
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Dec 26, 2020 9:23 AM CST
Name: Teresa Cole
Bayfield, Colorado S.W. Rockie (Zone 4b)
8000 ft. Up
Eleanor Roosevelt, intermediate, mid bloom season, purple, reliable, reblooming .

https://garden.org/pics/2016-0...
Weed= A flower yet to be appreciated
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Dec 28, 2020 9:50 PM CST
Name: Wheezy
Cincinnati (Zone 6a)
Bee Lover Dog Lover Frogs and Toads Irises Region: Ohio
MochaJoe said:Never ordered from Stouts will have to check them out. Anyone ever have deer eating your iris.?


The adults don't here.
Occasionally- not always- there is damage from light browsing, but it is never significant and doesn't recur. The fawns haven't yet learned that they are a poisonous. They graze once and then never again.

I've never ordered from stout's either. 😁
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