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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
May 10, 2021 8:24 PM CST
Will, I'd go ahead and harvest it if it's over three inches. If you wait for others to get big enough that one might be too big and "piffy".

ETA: I meant to add that picking it would channel the energy from it to the rest of the plant, too.
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May 10, 2021 9:03 PM CST
Newyorkrita said:Way ahead of me here as I haven't even planted my peppers as yet. I have decided that I will start to plant them out in ground on Sunday.
Today I was working on some areas were I will be planting peppers. Things like spacing after deciding what goes were.
Still need to finish digging out the dandelions from the long side yard bed were I intend to plant my cucumber seeds.

We went to garden shops this weekend and while I bought some nice looking tomatoes and chiles at one of the few true greenhouses left near here, most places it was even worse than last year with same stuff every where, and I mean same, literally.
The days of going to different greenhouses/garden shops for their variation is , at least for now, gone.

I may order some veggies online just to get a little variety.
I have one place left to look but not one place had any Green Zebra Tomatoes.

As far as bagged/boxed products it is even worse , if you do not want MiracleGrow, your choices are few to zero depending on store.
Schultz , which used to be in most store is gone; Algoflash/Algoplus which used to be common is gone.
Oddly, if you put vegetable fertilizer in google, you will get the brands available in store around here; if you put the same search in Bing, you get the the stuff you also used to see in many store/greenhouses around here.

I have not planted my potatoes yet and have just started working on getting the North garden ready for planting; I put some onions in down South and partly tilled the garden but there is a a huge amount of work to do down there besides planting (roses are still covered down there.)

It is supposed to drop to 28 F here tonight so I brought all the plants in and covered all the flowers Sharon had planted out side; low thirties tomorrow but after Friday night temps. are supposed to be in the fifties so I can maybe start planting .

Most new corns varieties I bought are long term to maturity and I may end up with a lot of not ready for picking corn again this fall.
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Name: Lynda Horn
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gardenfish
May 11, 2021 2:36 AM CST
I think the reason everyone carries the same varieties is that they basically get their plants from the same sources. There seems to be less and less small greenhouse concerns that produce for the commercial retail market. A shame.
It took me some digging, but I located a small greenhouse that's actually in business to sell commercially but operates as retail, too. I will be visiting there soon. And they are organic!
RpR, I grew green zebra last year; I purchased it from tomatobaby, a small online place in Tennessee. Please check it out. She ( the owner) is probably through selling for the year, but you can still look at her typical offerings. I can usually find all the tomato varieties I want there. And if you don't see what you like, send her the seed and she will grow it for you! She packs her plants very well for shipping.
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ardesia
May 11, 2021 6:52 AM CST
The growers here in the southeast are switching over to growing medicinal marijuana. It is less expensive to grow and the profits are significantly higher. Local nurseries are having a had time finding traditional plant material.

A funny thing happened recently near my neighborhood. There are still some fairly rural spots here and there is a large business with many greenhouses well off the road so it cannot be seen. Most do not even know it is there but I always zero in on nursery businesses and had contacted them a year or two ago and learned they were a wholesale operation growing bedding plants. Last week people started smelling pot and no one could figure out where it was coming from. Turned out the greenhouses had switched over to growing medicinal marijuana and they had been burning older plants that were no longer producing. Now that everyone knows they are there and what they are growing I expect they will have to increase their security. Whistling
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Willinator
May 11, 2021 8:27 AM CST
OK here is the pictures of the first Eggplant Fairy Tale harvested and then more!


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And here are pictures of what is coming soon, more babies!
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
May 11, 2021 1:24 PM CST
RpR said:
We went to garden shops this weekend and while I bought some nice looking tomatoes and chiles at one of the few true greenhouses left near here, most places it was even worse than last year with same stuff every where, and I mean same, literally.<snip>

Schultz , which used to be in most store is gone; Algoflash/Algoplus which used to be common is gone.
Oddly, if you put vegetable fertilizer in google, you will get the brands available in store around here; if you put the same search in Bing, you get the the stuff you also used to see in many store/greenhouses around here.

Thanks for that report! Hope the corn crop pulls it off before the season ends!!! Thumbs up

Same thing around here...I asked my wife to pick up a tomato plant the other day for me while she was doing a Wallyworld pick-up. She called and said the plants there were basically...dead....that everything just looked trashed. Thumbs down

As for Google versus most other search engines...yeah, it seems to me that they cater to the $$$ more than other search engines do.
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
May 11, 2021 1:29 PM CST
ardesia said:<snip>
Turned out the greenhouses had switched over to growing medicinal marijuana and they had been burning older plants that were no longer producing. Now that everyone knows they are there and what they are growing I expect they will have to increase their security. Whistling

No, no need in increasing security...just let everybody know the "burn" days and also the wind direction so the "interested" people will know where to camp. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
May 11, 2021 3:30 PM CST
That is why I grow from seed. Same old same old at the local nurseries. Even the big nursery that has the most selection doesn't have what I want.
Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
May 11, 2021 6:17 PM CST
I'm starting to see Big Beef plants here and there. And every now and then a Beef Master. The Cupid cherry I've yet to see. From there I only have my experimental OP plants each year. Next year I will be trying something new with the hybrids, maybe a Chef Choice variety, the pink seems like a nice one. I've learned that the big tomatoes, the really big ones, are problematical in getting them to maturity with the pests, pest both legged and un-legged, that we have around here. I'm giving the Beef Masters one more shot this year for a large sized tomato to prove themselves. I had intended on just planting a single one, but...ended up with two. I need to start planting more varieties. Maybe even increase from one to two OP varieties. Shrug!

Who knows (Tammy Sue?), I might go ahead and start some new ones now.
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Name: SoCal
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SoCalGardenNut
May 11, 2021 6:51 PM CST
It's fun Ed, try something new. Next year I will try.
I have a handful of cherry tomatoes to be picked for lunch tomorrow. Grilled balsamic chicken with lettuce and red tomatoes. Yummy!
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dyzzypyxxy
May 11, 2021 8:17 PM CST
Don't forget the big freeze in February wiped out a lot of the greenhouse growers in Texas and Louisiana this year. Let's hope it will be a bit better next year, but I'm buying seeds now for my fall garden.
Elaine

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Name: Lynda Horn
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gardenfish
May 12, 2021 1:22 AM CST
I'm going to order lettuce seeds from rare seeds and order some bronze fennel, too.
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sallyg
May 12, 2021 4:20 AM CST
I was happy with Merveille de Quatre Saisons , it held well as spring got warm last year. I grew Green Ice a lot for a leaf type

Someone needs to unplug May, count to ten and then plug it back in.. it is just not working right! 42 this morning.
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May 12, 2021 4:48 AM CST
sallyg said:I was happy with Merveille de Quatre Saisons , it held well as spring got warm last year. I grew Green Ice a lot for a leaf type

Someone needs to unplug May, count to ten and then plug it back in.. it is just not working right! 42 this morning.

Lol. Unplug May here but for a different reason. To drain all the water. Haven't looked this morning but in excess of 5 inches for the past three days with more on the way today.

So I spent my weekend doing inside work and ended up turning in seed orders last night for next fall ( and restocking some favorites for next spring). Merveille de Quatre Saisons was an impulse purchase. Glad to see your review. I normally have not like the texture with shades of red but they had such an enthralling description. Green Grin!
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Name: Ed
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Intheswamp
May 12, 2021 5:49 AM CST
The freeze set many things back. I would think the Bonnie growers would be 2 months past the freeze and that's giving them a month to clean up and re-plant seeds. But, I've seen new plants in the garden centers over a month ago. Bonnie and growers were hurt, but they put things in overdrive and appeared to be getting inventories back up. In the past when stock was low the garden areas were at least clean and orderly. I wonder if the trashiness comes from the fact companies are having trouble finding people to work and they're not putting much employee time into the garden department. Shrug!

ETA: I agree with buying the seeds. Don't panic buy, but buy enough to cover for the next year. In my case, a packet of tomato seeds will cover me for 2-3 years, easily. If I plant out three plants of the same variety that would take at the most nine seeds (planting 3 seeds per cup). I'm thinking of cutting back to 2 seeds per cup next year so that would cut my tomato seed usage down by 33%. I mostly grow hybrid tomatoes so saving seeds isn't a good option, but if push comes to solve some saved hybrid seeds would be better than nothing. Cowpeas are something that is more problematic but I may try saving my seeds this year for them. I usually don't save them due to possible disease carryover. Peppers are easy to save as many are OP as are many watermelons. Etc., etc. So yeah, buy seeds and be frugal. Thumbs up
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Name: SoCal
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May 12, 2021 7:55 AM CST
I'm going to sow some lettuce seeds under the tomato plants, they need the shade.
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ardesia
May 12, 2021 7:59 AM CST
That sounds like a terrific idea. I wish we could do something like that here but it is just too hot for crops like lettuce, shade or not.
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
May 12, 2021 1:54 PM CST
A packet of tomato seeds lasts me many years also. Usually three years. Well depending on how many seeds they gave me.

On my Buffalo Steak I only got 5 seeds so only good for this year and next year.
Name: Lynda Horn
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gardenfish
May 12, 2021 2:48 PM CST
The Quatre seasons lettuce is tops, I've grown it before. Rare seeds had a new on to me, called strawberry blond, or something like that. I will definitely be trying that one!
As for rain, well it would seem that Mother Nature is going to try and drown us next week! Upwards of 4" in two days. I've got to scramble to finish my planting before the deluge hits, and I'm still very ill. It's going to be a trial to get stuff done. I will be getting some new meds tomorrow. Hope this improves my condition.
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Newyorkrita
May 12, 2021 2:54 PM CST
Intheswamp said:I'm starting to see Big Beef plants here and there. And every now and then a Beef Master. The Cupid cherry I've yet to see. From there I only have my experimental OP plants each year. Next year I will be trying something new with the hybrids, maybe a Chef Choice variety, the pink seems like a nice one. I've learned that the big tomatoes, the really big ones, are problematical in getting them to maturity with the pests, pest both legged and un-legged, that we have around here. I'm giving the Beef Masters one more shot this year for a large sized tomato to prove themselves. I had intended on just planting a single one, but...ended up with two. I need to start planting more varieties. Maybe even increase from one to two OP varieties. Shrug!

Who knows (Tammy Sue?), I might go ahead and start some new ones now.


Ed, I think your bugs there in your garden would wreck Chef's Choice Pink. It is very thin skinned.

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