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Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 22, 2021 6:11 PM CST
What is a good grass/grass mix for just a plain old lawn? I recently cleared out a ton of privet and now have a long, semi-hilly area that's torn up and needs ground cover. Not sure if there is something better than others. I am in the country and am not looking for a suburban lawn LOL--just green stuff that holds up and holds the dirt down. :-)
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Jan 22, 2021 6:16 PM CST
@RpR
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Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Jan 22, 2021 6:44 PM CST
pawsplus said:What is a good grass/grass mix for just a plain old lawn? I recently cleared out a ton of privet and now have a long, semi-hilly area that's torn up and needs ground cover. Not sure if there is something better than others. I am in the country and am not looking for a suburban lawn LOL--just green stuff that holds up and holds the dirt down. :-)

If you are honest about not wanting a mowed lawn, this, and many seed catalogs have -- similar blends -- is what you may like.
It can be mown but will look like a pasture rather than a golf course.

https://www.highcountrygardens...

I used one on my in town lawn , people asked what type grass it was , due some varieties of broad leaf grass, and I simply said, pasture.
Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 22, 2021 6:46 PM CST
Oh, no, it gets mown! I just meant I'm not precious about it. You have to mow in the country or you get snakes. :-)
Name: Steve
Port Orchard, WA (Zone 8b)
BrooklynStart
Jan 22, 2021 7:37 PM CST
Pawsplus, if you input what city and USDA zone you are in, it would help in answering your question. Types of grasses are normally recommended based on winter temperature. Cool season grasses do well in Chicago, Boston, plus. Cool season grasses include Blue Grass, Perinnial Rye, and Fescues. Warm season grasses do well in Key West, and other areas that do not normally freeze. Warm season grasses include Bermuda Grass, St. Augustine and Zoysia.
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Jan 22, 2021 9:10 PM CST
pawsplus said:Oh, no, it gets mown! I just meant I'm not precious about it. You have to mow in the country or you get snakes. :-)
Then you are looking for a suburban lawn grass.
Rye would be cheapest.


Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 23, 2021 8:05 AM CST
I am a little South of Nashville, TN. Zone 7A I think? Rye. OK. I will ask about that. :-)
Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 24, 2021 6:24 PM CST
Do I need to cover the grass seed with straw? If so, do I then need to remove the straw at some point? If so, when?
Name: Steve
Port Orchard, WA (Zone 8b)
BrooklynStart
Jan 25, 2021 10:45 AM CST
pawsplus, never used straw, always used cow manure.

I recommend using a Perinnial rye, or a combination of a Perinnial rye and a fescue. After leveling area, then do some compaction of the dirt if you want a somewhat smooth lawn, when GROUND TEMP gets above 60f put the seed down (grass seed will not germinate in ground temps below 50f), Lightly rake it into the soil (this ensures good contact with the soil), cover the seeds lightly with manure or straw (this will provide cover from the birds and help retain moisture), and the water to prevent drying out. Do not mow until grass is 3".
P.S. I start planting grass seed when day time temp is above 65f and night time temp is above 45f. Putting down seed earlier results in wondering why the seed has not germinated.
Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 25, 2021 5:27 PM CST
I have horse manure (not composted) but not cow. It was 60F today but this time of year it goes up and down drastically. Do I need to wait to plant until it's consistently 60F? Around here (TN) it can be up to 85 in March but it can also freeze. It is impossible to predict! Not sure when to plant . . .
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Jan 25, 2021 5:51 PM CST
Cover it with straw, it will decompose on its own .
How big of an area?
Name: Steve
Port Orchard, WA (Zone 8b)
BrooklynStart
Jan 25, 2021 8:49 PM CST
pawsplus, I purchase composted manure by the yard and believe it assists in providing nutrients for the new grass. As RpR posted, straw will also decompose. It's decomposition will also add nutrients.

If you Google "ground temperature to germinate grass seed", you will see discussions on the affect of ground temp on germinating cool season grass seed, such as, Perennial rye and fescue; discussions on daytime temps and ground temps; and the effect of frost on grass seed germination. Most of the discussions are by major grass seed companies, others are also worthy ones for reading. During your reading, you will note that most, if not all, recommend ground temps of 50-65f, one discusses ground temps of 85f--I recommend ground temps of 60f, that is MY PREFERENCE.
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Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Jan 26, 2021 5:46 AM CST
RpR said:Cover it with straw, it will decompose on its own .
How big of an area?

15 x 100 I guess?
Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Feb 4, 2021 6:27 AM CST
Is there any reason, other than the fact that there may be weed seeds in it, not to use old hay instead of straw? I have a huge pile of hay my horses left in their hay nets over the last few years. It is under cover and there is nothing wrong with it, other than not being tasty enough LOL. I don't mind some weed seeds LOL--as long as it's green I'm good with it. Would that be OK to use to cover? Since I want to get rid of this pile anyway, I hate to go out and buy something when that hay is sitting right there!
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Feb 4, 2021 12:48 PM CST
You can use it but do not put it on too heavy.
Hay mats down in a glob, straw does not.
I would use it.
Name: Elizabeth
Middle Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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pawsplus
Feb 4, 2021 5:53 PM CST
RpR said:You can use it but do not put it on too heavy.
Hay mats down in a glob, straw does not.
I would use it.


OK! I will just scatter it lightly. Smiling Thanks!

Name: Kimmy
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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Kimmy2012
Feb 9, 2021 11:28 PM CST
I've just got a yard of aged horse manure and spread it all over my small yard (1500 sqft). It's my first time putting horse manure in the lawn, and I wonder if it's too early? Should I wait until March?

It's been raining so much this year in Portland, and it's gonna snow this week too.
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Feb 10, 2021 7:13 PM CST
Snow is good it will help the manure soak into the ground.

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