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Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 7a)
daylilly99
Feb 28, 2021 1:42 PM CST
I have been using P-Touch Model PT-1500PC for years now.

The reason I use this one is because you can put your labels in as a batch operation so it prints them all out before spitting out the extra piece of tape where you make the cut. This can save a lot of money on tape as opposed to printing one at a time with the extra tape spit out after each label.

It's quite an old machine and I think it's failing due to the noises it's making and the fact that it destroyed one of those very expensive tapes. I've also had problems with the clear plastic layer starting to peel off the tapes after a season or two. I think the tapes used to last a lot better in the past. I see they have stronger tapes now but they cost $5 more per tape and who knows if they would solve the problem (which Frank Richards says he's been having too.)

So, I've decided to replace my machine and since they don't make this one any more found a factory sealed on on Ebay at a good price. That being said, I did not want to buy the replacement Brother model that you use with your PC because I'm not sure I can manage to relearn how to set up the labels as I want them using new software ... also some of the reviews for the new model were on the lines of "They replaced the 1500 with this ... WHY?"

Is anyone here using the new model ... P-touch Cube Plus (PT-P710BT)? Is it difficult to learn how to format and set up labels? I have some designed now to to three lines of print in varying font sizes and with different alignments on a 1" label.

Is there some other labeling system that would look good, hold up in the weather and not cost a fortune
Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 7a)
daylilly99
Mar 1, 2021 10:45 AM CST
If anyone wants to know, I think I've found a better system after talking to Margo Reed and finding out what she does.

This does require a laser printer. She uses Microsoft Word to print on plastic Avery labels (black on clear for her). She told me the labels hold up longer than the metal tags.

We don't have MS Word but I still have Word Perfect. I would just need to figure out how to be put information on each of the 30 labels on a sheet so maybe I can slowly transition to that since we do have some laser printers here.
Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Region: Kentucky
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kennysh
Mar 1, 2021 2:56 PM CST
I use the label printing function on the plant step program. (Check it out.) It has several different ways to print labels. Does pretty good with the weather proof Avery address labels. For added protection I apply a couple of coats of FLex seal brand clear plastic coating. It has UV protection to help with sun fading. Some markers have been out 2 years and look new. If I see some fading some fading I recoat them with the flex seal. The weather proof labels are Lazer printed at Staples for about .30 cents a sheet. Smiling Thank You!
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Mar 1, 2021 3:36 PM CST
Kenny,
Can you show us some photos of some of your labels, what size are the Avery address labels. How many lines of print will fit on them?
Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Region: Kentucky
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kennysh
Mar 1, 2021 5:16 PM CST
Let me see if I can get this right? These frist two photos are what most of mine look like,probably 2 yrs old.
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These next two are how I labels my seedlings. Stamped numbers,paint pen ink in the numbers, and the plastic clear coat over that. Alum. Window blinds is the stake.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Daylilies Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Mar 1, 2021 5:31 PM CST
Those look great. I really like how you can get so much info on the marker.
I have some old Everlast plant markers that I have to spread the legs out like that to keep the name plate from falling down. The newer Everlast ones I got with the heavy duty name plates and stainless steel stakes won't slide down, they snap in good and tight.
Name: Kenny Shively
Rineyville, KY. region 10. (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Region: Kentucky
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kennysh
Mar 2, 2021 8:39 AM CST
Yes I would like to have the stainless steel markers. Maybe when my billfold grows as fast as weeds. Hilarious! . Smiling
Name: Pat
McLean, VA (Zone 7a)
daylilly99
Mar 2, 2021 9:43 AM CST
I've found you can put a lot of information on the tag using the P-touch software. These are some tags I just made for the plants that will be in our club plant program. On my personal tags, instead of NVDS 2023 I put branching and bud count. I like having everything right in front of me for help in making on the spot hybridizing decisions.
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As for tags, I'm slowly transitioning new to the Kincaid stainless steel for all my own introductions and any newly acquired plants that I think I will be likely to keep for a long while.

I use the galvanized for my seedlings (smaller size tag) and still some of the 1"x3" (approximately) tags also but don't expect them to last too long.

For all the tags (including those for club plants), I've switched to the stainless steel legs. Galvanized wires just corrode in the soil and the legs get shorter and shorter as I have to break the bottoms off.

Kenny, thanks for the tip about the label printing program on PlantStep. I'll check it out when I have a little time.
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
Composter Daylilies Garden Photography Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Region: Alabama
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Seedfork
Mar 2, 2021 9:59 AM CST
I just went to the PawPaw Everlast site and saw they have dropped the standard duty zinc name plants and only offer the heavy duty name plants and the copper name plants. 30 heavy duty zinc name plants with the stainless steel 11.5 inch tall stakes is $38.75.
They are not as nice as the Kincaide 2P-12 it to me is a nicer marker but they don't have free shipping and it runs right at $50.00 for just 25 including the shipping.I think the longer lasting stainless steel stakes are well worth the extra money if you have many plants and if the soil in your garden and the fertilizer you use corrodes the zinc stakes like it does in my garden.

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