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Mar 12, 2021 12:57 PM CST
California (Zone 10a)
I have 2 places and one place uses Chicken manure and the other place uses Horse manure and hay. I'm just curious which kind is good or it does not matter.

They are both organic compost.
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Mar 12, 2021 1:43 PM CST
West Central Minnesota (Zone 4a)
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I would lean toward the chicken manure. Horse manure is supposed to be one of the most alkaline, which is fine if you're in the east, but if you're out west I'd favor other types.
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Mar 12, 2021 2:52 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
Chicken would be better
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Mar 14, 2021 6:46 AM CST
Name: Thomas Mitchell
Central Ohio (Zone 6a)
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Best kind is the kind you make yourself. Smiling Nothing like making compost and then adding it to your soil. Hopefully you have the space and the materials available to make your own.
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May 10, 2021 2:03 AM CST
Name: John K.
Malaysia
Organic Gardener
One potential problem with Horse manure is that the grass they ate might have systemic herbicide chemicals that will persist to kill your plants later.
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Jul 9, 2021 8:10 PM CST
canada 4b (Zone 8a)
I put 27 bags of black kow composted manure in the garden last year and it was contaminated. It took out most and damaged all the plants.
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Jul 21, 2021 6:37 PM CST
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
Lazy Gardener or Melonator
I thought Black Kow manure is supposed to be good. Good thing I didn't buy anything.
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Jul 21, 2021 7:48 PM CST
canada 4b (Zone 8a)
SoCalGardenNut said:I thought Black Kow manure is supposed to be good. Good thing I didn't buy anything.

They quietly took responsibility and I did notice they removed it from Lowes for the rest of the year.
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Jul 22, 2021 6:03 AM CST
Port d'Envaux, France (Zone 9a)
A Darwinian gardener
...the kind you make yourself.
I find myself most amusing.
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Aug 17, 2021 1:45 PM CST
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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"The kind you make yourself" has been mentioned a couple of times in the thread. But, a nice pile of composting organic matter is the Hôtel de Paris in Monte-Carlo for fire ants in some areas, like mine. I know many of you have never encountered fire ants but they are deadly and, at the least, dangerous. I've tried on several occasions to start compost piles and it never fails to become infested with fire ants. Sure, we could put out poisons *but* it'd have to go into the compost and pretty much all the poisons that will work are stated as not being approved for use where edible crops are growing. To me, the OPs question regarding choosing either chicken or horse manure, is a specific question narrowed down to two answers.

I agree that the horse manure may very well be contaminated with pesticides (either insecticides and/or herbicides). Half-lives of some of these chemicals are long-lasting in regards to harming garden crops...they are designed that way to stop weeds (especially broad leaf weeds) from growing for a season or three. And, though their impact on plants may diminish over time there is still contamination present as half-lives never end. Also, lots of horse feed also contains larvacides to reduce fly infestations...that will get passed along to your soil organisms/critters. Naturally, if they were *your* horses and knew the feed that they were eating did not have larvacides or other "treatments" the manure would be some good stuff. Mixed in with hay, though, I would be careful about bringing in weed seeds, too.

Chicken manure...no big worry from herbicides but insecticides might be a problem. Hormones and antibiotics are supposed to be a thing of the past. I, too, would go with chicken manure over horse manure due to the herbicide-use difference.

For me, I'd have to buy bags from the big box stores of the general "mushroom", "cow", etc., composts offered and trust that they're "clean". Otherwise, find a poultry-grower to get some manure from. The days of shoveling cow or horse manure are over for me. I've seen the effects of herbicides in manure but don't think it's just in manure. There has big cases reported of some big name potting mixes/soils that have caused severe problems for gardeners, too. If you can do all your soil amending from homegrown ingredients you are indeed *very* fortunate!

It's been years since we lived in a fairly "clean" world, though, and it doesn't seem to be getting a whole lot better. Disease and pests continue to appear or strengthen and man tries to deal with it...sometimes properly and sometimes improperly. I can you could apply the old saying, "Pick your poison..." to soil amendments. Blinking
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Nov 21, 2022 1:01 PM CST
Name: DAVID or PRUNNR RETALLICK
MILLBROOK ONTARIO CANADA (Zone 5b)
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I'm going to ask a question , what is black kow manure ? Never heard the term up hear in ONTATIO .
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Nov 21, 2022 2:06 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
DAVIDRETALLICK said: I'm going to ask a question , what is black kow manure ? Never heard the term up hear in ONTATIO .

Brand name.
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Nov 21, 2022 2:47 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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I just looked it up, can't believe how expensive it is. I like this Walmart add, one bag is more than what 2 bags are listed for and even the 2 bag price seems outrageous.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bla...
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Dec 7, 2022 11:54 AM CST
Name: The Mole
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
Region: California Fruit Growers Greenhouse Canning and food preservation
Chicken manure contains approximately three times the amount of nitrogen that steer manure contains. The biggest problem I have in purchasing manure is ensuring that it doesn't contain biosolids (stabilized sewage sludge). The companies selling manure are good at concealing the contents of their products.

Here is an article that discusses the biosolids in manure problem.
https://www.planetnatural.com/...
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