Wildflowers forum: Yaupon Holly, Ilex vomitoria, Aquifoliaceae (Holly Family)

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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Jan 17, 2013 9:25 AM CST

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This lovely evergreen shrub or small tree is native to Texas and a few other states.
It is hardy and drought tolerant and provides cover and food for many birds, especially robins, blue jays and mockingbirds, they love those berries.
This shrub is almost a must if you are hosting birds, the evergreen cover is a great defense against hawks.
The last four pictures are of shrubs growing in a median of a busy highway.

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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Jan 18, 2013 5:32 AM CST
That really is beautiful. And what a feast for our fine feathered friends. I particularly like the fact that it makes a good shelter from hawks as we have Cooper's Hawks around. Some places tell me I'm on the borderline of this plant's hardiness so I haven't tried it but I do have other holly varieties.
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Jan 18, 2013 8:39 AM CST

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Tee, what other native Holly varieties do you have in your garden?
I am curious to know which hollies are native to Tennessee. Smiling
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SongofJoy
Jan 18, 2013 9:19 AM CST
One I know for certain is Possumhaw Holly (Ilex decidua). I see you are familiar with that one. :)

Another is Winterberry Holly (Ilex verticillata).


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Name: josephine
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Jan 18, 2013 12:40 PM CST

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Ilex verticillata is also native to Texas but only to the extreme south east, it is very pretty. Smiling
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Jan 18, 2013 1:24 PM CST
Yaupon Holly leaves can be brewed for tea. Not sure about Possumhaw Holly. Winterberry looks nice...love those red berries!
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Horntoad
Jan 18, 2013 5:05 PM CST
frostweed said:Ilex verticillata is also native to Texas but only to the extreme south east, it is very pretty. Smiling


Yes, Yaupon is very common around here. When we used to go to scout camps, we were always told not the chopped down any trees, but to feel free and take all the Yaupon we wanted.
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Jan 18, 2013 5:12 PM CST

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Things may have changed by now Jay, people are developing a new appreciation for native plants. Smiling
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Horntoad
Jan 18, 2013 5:47 PM CST
Oh, I believe they were very appreciative. It was said partly tongue-in-cheek, "Cut the Yaupon not the Yo! Pine". They have hundreds of scouts ranging from 5 to 18 using the camp almost continuously throughout the year. Kids are always wanting to cut down plants to whittle or make hiking sticks etc. and this was a way to allow them to and still protect the other less prolific and replenishable plants. I visited that camp several times a year for 14 years and never saw a shortage of Yaupon.
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Jan 18, 2013 8:02 PM CST

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Well, that is very encouraging to hear, they are not that abundant around north central Texas.
Do you get to see the Winterberry holly around your area? I have never seen them here, Smiling
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SongofJoy
Jan 19, 2013 4:23 AM CST
I was interested to hear about making tea from the Yaupon leaves. Is it tasty? Some question its native growth here, but it does grow around our area:
http://www.smokymountainnews.com/index.php/news/item/2412

This is another holly that is native to my area:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilex_glabra

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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Jan 19, 2013 8:12 AM CST

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Tee, that was a very interesting article about Yaupon tea. I knew that the native peoples used it, but I had never read such an extensive account.
I will have to try it some time, it sounds interesting. Smiling

Ilex glabra is native to Texas but not to my area, I think it grows around where Jay lives. Smiling
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Horntoad
Jan 19, 2013 8:29 AM CST
According to Bonap I. glabra doesn't even grow in Texas. I. vomitoria is considered adventive in Tennessee.

Bonap is far from perfect by I have found it to be the best source for plant nativity in North America.
http://www.bonap.org/BONAPmaps2010/Ilex.html

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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Jan 19, 2013 8:58 AM CST
Thanks for that, Jay. From what I have read, it was probably first introduced and cultivated by the Cherokee Indians in the Smoky Mountains. It is now fairly plentiful in the upper south as well (at least into my zone 7). For some reason, the USDA says holly has no true native status. Is that true? It's old enough and has been around long enough in these parts to be considered the next best thing to native as it grows wild in some areas.

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ILEX

As an aside, the word "Tennessee" comes from a Cherokee Indian name, Tanasi, which was the name of a major Cherokee town in southeastern Tennessee.
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LindaTX8
Jan 19, 2013 11:28 AM CST
OT, but did anyone see Lynn's pics on the ID forum? I'm pretty sure it's Apache Plume! I'd love to grow them! So pretty!
The Yaupon Holly leaf tea...I went with Delena Tull's directions and roasted the leaves in the over at 200° until it turns brown. The tea is okay with honey, but I prefer my usual teas. I've got a nice bush of Yaupon Holly in my front yard. And nice link, Tee, good info!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Jan 19, 2013 11:56 AM CST
Thanks, Linda. Yes, I saw those photos. Very pretty. I do want to try the Yaupon tea now that my curiosity is piqued. I hear you about a taste for our usual teas though. I definitely have my faves. Smiling
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Name: Arif Masud
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KAMasud
Jan 22, 2013 8:17 AM CST
Tee, you would love these comments of someone. " Gallberry tea, within 40 minutes I have to go pray to the porcelain god".
http://www.eattheweeds.com/hollies-caffein-antioxidants/
Enjoy your cuppa tea.
Regards,
Arif.

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