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Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 10, 2021 2:29 PM CST
Can anyone tell me their experience with this rose and if it tends to grow tall? Thank You!
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 10, 2021 3:26 PM CST
My Parade Day is currently 27" tall. It was tiny when I purchased 18 Months ago.
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I doubt it will be any more than 3'
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 10, 2021 4:13 PM CST
Thank you, Dennis. Is your PD an own-root?
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 10, 2021 4:54 PM CST
reh0622 said:Thank you, Dennis. Is your PD an own-root?


Yes
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 10, 2021 5:24 PM CST
Only thought of this after, but I checked the database, and it lists Parade Day as 4'-5', and I would think that it takes for granted that it would be grafted, which the one I recently purchased is, so here in Zone 9, it could be even taller, depending.
Name: Dennis Brown
The Big Island, Hawaii
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kohala
Apr 10, 2021 6:10 PM CST
Your conjecture about grafted vs own root roses coincides with my experience. I have both grafted and own root DA roses. Both are healthy and bloom frequently. However, my grafted DA's are at least 10 times the size of the own root ones.
Name: seil
St Clair Shores, MI (Zone 6a)
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seilMI
Apr 10, 2021 7:22 PM CST
Most own root roses do eventually catch up to their grafted sisters but it takes a lot more time. The purpose of the graft is to push faster growth. And it is true that there are some varieties that just do not grow vigorously on their own roots. The key is to give them the time they need to mature before deciding that but most people are not that patient, lol!
Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 10, 2021 8:44 PM CST
i bought a Saratoga from RVR two years ago. This is the 3rd blooming season. I think there were two or three blooms last year, and maybe two blooms the first year. Three blooms this spring so far.. I bought it to replace one that I had bought 25 years ago as a bodybag bareroot. By the third year, there were probably 100 blooms at once, and it was probably 3' X 3' at least. This one is about a foot tall. Now I am wondering if the first one was even Saratoga. At one point I transplanted it to another area that got a little less sun, and the roses became striped red and white and then declined. Well, I'm happy this one is still alive! When it arrived, it was a 6" twig, , and I had my doubts that it would survive. The roses are very pretty.
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
SusaninSB
Apr 10, 2021 10:28 PM CST
Rosemary, all three of my Saratogas are own-root. The original one was purchased from Vintage (sorry my database doesn't have a year), but probably 15-ish years ago, or more. I love it so much that I bought another two from Heirloom in Aug 2016. I don't recall any of them having a significant sleep period before taking off and blooming well. They all bloom really well. Do the blooms have a sort of gardenia-like quality in appearance? That's one of the significant things I notice about it. Mine have never been anything but pure white.

How funny that you mentioned Parade Day. I bought one as a bare root at my local nursery on 1/4/21, and it has just bloomed two blooms. It's in a 5 gallon pot, so I can't tell you its eventual size, but it must have filled the pot well with roots, since it's the first of my new bare roots to wilt a bit in our 80-ish current temps. Canary in a coal mine :-D
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Name: Rosemary
Sacramento, CA (Zone 9b)
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reh0622
Apr 11, 2021 11:27 AM CST
That's interesting, Susan. I've always regretted moving it. It was replaced it with low-growing gardenias...which died. Too much sun, maybe. So you think your Parade Day could already by pot-bound?
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
SusaninSB
Apr 11, 2021 9:43 PM CST
Rosemary, that's what I'm thinking, b/c the plant is so vigorous. This year, the roots on all of the bare roots I bought at my local nursery were particularly large and well-hydrated. This nursery sells bare roots out of bins of mulch. But I usually leave them in the 5 gallon pots for about 6 months before transplanting. I hope this doesn't mean that Parade Day wants to be a monster huge bush! I usually check pretty carefully at HMF and various catalogs before buying to avoid that.

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