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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 7:33 AM CST
Yesterday I started the first wave of seeds for the new year .. here's the list:

Bird of Paradise - Caesalpinia pulcherrima
Chilean Bell Flower - Lapageria rosea
Cigar Flower - Cuphea lanceolata
Corydalis - Corydalis taliensis
Dutchman's Pipe - Gigantia - Aristolochia gigantea
Geranium - Pink Lace - Geranium
Heuchera 'Emperor's Cloak' - Heuchera
Hibiscus - Yellow Mallow - Pavonia praemorsa - Germinated 1-25-13
Jovellana - Jovellana punctata
Milkweed - Blue - Southern Star - Tweedia coerulea
Mimulus Mimulus luteus tigrinus grandiflorus - Germinated 1-25-13
Oxalis - Blue - Shamrock Pea - Parochetus communis - Germinated 1-28-13
Sea Onion - Bowiea volubilis
Shag Spine Pea Shrub - Caragana jubata - Germinated 1-28-13
Star Vine - Schisandra glabra
Sweet Pea - Blue - 'Azureus' - Lathyrus sativus - Germinated 1-25-13 - Green showing 1-28-13

I'm trying something new this year .. in the past I used cell packs which were a pain because of irregular germination - I'd have to be digging out individual seedling to transplant into a pot .. This year I'm using plastic bathroom cups. I'm hoping that I can avoid having to do 2 transplants.

I can fit 15 cups on my tray and as each cup germinates and gets true leaves I can just move the cup out to the greenhouse and stick in a new cup with new seeds. Hopefully I can keep the seedlings in these cups til they are ready to be planted in their final home.


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Name: Joanne
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Joannabanana
Jan 23, 2013 8:17 AM CST
I did some in plastic cups too. Red Sheild Hibiscus, dwarf sunflower Choco Sun, Purple Fountain Grass and Blue Dragon

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 8:26 AM CST
Those look great! Hoping mine do as well.
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Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
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Joannabanana
Jan 23, 2013 8:32 AM CST
I like the paper cups better. Easier to poke drain holes.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 9:17 AM CST
I thought about paper cups but vetoed it because after 6 weeks of being wet they tend to tear and fall apart .. what I did with the plastic cup was just take a pair of nail clippers and clipped off a piece at the bottom .. quick and easy and they drain perfectly.
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 23, 2013 9:21 AM CST

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I've used cups too, both inside and for wintersowing. For wintersowing, I use much bigger cups. I start wintersown tomato seeds in 16 oz cups.

Karen
Name: Joanne
Calgary, AB Canada (Zone 3a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Canadian Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Roses
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Annuals Container Gardener Vegetable Grower Winter Sowing Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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Joannabanana
Jan 23, 2013 9:22 AM CST
Xeramtheum said: what I did with the plastic cup was just take a pair of nail clippers and clipped off a piece at the bottom .. quick and easy and they drain perfectly.


Great tip! Thumbs up I will go fix my cups now
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 9:32 AM CST
I had been wracking my brain for the last few months trying to think of a way to downsize everything since this Winter there is precious little room on the greenhouse bench for seedlings because of passiflora cuttings .. if things work out the way I'm hoping they will I won't have to be doing a major rearranging to get room on the bench for seedlings. I go to the thrift shops once a week and buy up all the small plastic children's shelves I can find.

The fan will end up off the bench and on a stool as seedlings start getting moved out there.


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Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Jan 23, 2013 9:35 AM CST
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Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Roses_R_Red
Jan 23, 2013 9:36 AM CST
Does anyone have any advice about using styrofoam cups to start seeds in?
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 9:40 AM CST
Styro is ok for starting seeds but the problem with them is that they can crumble after awhile and you end up having little bits of styro tumbling around the yard. With the plastic cups, I can use them over and over again. After I'm done with them I'll just wash them out with soapy water and spritz a little bleach water in them to kill any bacteria.
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Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 23, 2013 9:40 AM CST

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What kind of advice to you have in mind Confused Do you mean using them under lights or outside?
Name: Teri
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Roses_R_Red
Jan 23, 2013 10:28 AM CST
Under lights only. I wouldn't put them outside because they're not really sturdy enough to cope.
Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 23, 2013 10:53 AM CST

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I use them for wintersowing sometimes. They work just fine for me. I just contain them in a bin so they don't blow away.
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Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Roses_R_Red
Jan 23, 2013 11:02 AM CST
What do you cover them with? Individually or the whole container?
Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 23, 2013 11:45 AM CST

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The whole container. It had a snap-on lid which has died of old age. Hilarious! It got brittle from years of weather exposure. Holes were drill in lid and bottom. But clear plastic tarp could be taped on, holes punched. Lids is removed after germination and temps are appropriate.

Most of my stuff is wintersown in milk jugs. But sometimes I sow very frost-tender stuff into cups, because most annuals will grow fast when weather warms and I don't want to have to pot up a bunch of seedlings while waiting for no danger of frost.

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Karen
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Annuals Echinacea Winter Sowing Seed Starter Lilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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Roses_R_Red
Jan 23, 2013 1:10 PM CST
Was the snap on lid opaque or clear?
Name: Karen
Cincinnati, Oh (Zone 6a)
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kqcrna
Jan 23, 2013 2:26 PM CST

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I think that one was clear. But I also use solid color ones. Doesn't matter too much, light enters through the sides...BUT... I don't give it too much importance since often they're totally buried in snow. :shrug:
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If it concerns you, you can always flip the bin over and use it upside down.
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Karen
Name: Teri
Mount Bethel, PA
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Roses_R_Red
Jan 23, 2013 2:32 PM CST
Which seeds do you have the most success with. We're in the same zone so I'd like to pattern some things after you if you don;t mind.
Name: Anne
Summerville, SC (Zone 8a)
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Xeramtheum
Jan 23, 2013 3:10 PM CST
I have a copy of a Winter Sown Database compiled for zones 0 -10. It's in MS Excel form which can be opened with Open Office software. It's huge so I broke it up into two files, zones 0 - 5 and 6 - 10. It's list of results of various seeds winter sown .. it's pretty comprehensive for most common plants. Just click on the links and choose save.

Here is a link for zones 0-5

http://www.nerii.org/Ron/Winter_Sow_DB_Zones_0-5.xls

Here is a link for zones 6 -10

http://www.nerii.org/Ron/Winter_Sow_DB_Zones_6-10.xls
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