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Apr 26, 2021 11:50 AM CST
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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I kinda took this idea off of the Daylily forums. Whistling I thought it would be cool to make one for irises as well. As Daylilies and irises are the most common perennials in perennial gadens.

1. I would try to make TB blooms heat tolerant.

2. I'd try to make more Newer TB iris varieties to naturalize better. The older ones tend to naturalize better. You immediately have to divide the newer varieties every 3 to 4 years because they start to look patchy (mainly long ugly or bald old rhizomes that connect to each other with a few fans left over in the clump.)

3. I'd also like to make TBs more tolerable to shade and tolerable to soil that has extra moisture.


What would you guys do???
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Apr 26, 2021 7:13 PM CST
Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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Good goals, Ian. I like #2 especially since digging and dividing clumps is so much work. I'd like to see blooms last more than a couple of days.
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Apr 26, 2021 9:14 PM CST
Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)
Irises Region: Ukraine
#1 and #2 sound like very good ideas!
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Apr 27, 2021 4:11 AM CST
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
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AndreaD said:#1 and #2 sound like very good ideas!

I agree.
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Apr 27, 2021 7:24 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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I would definitely like to combine some of the new colours and patterns with better vigour in my climate, though I would probably not try to cross modern irises with very old ones, but rather use modern irises that I know grow well for me. If you want to improve bearded irises toward better tolerance of wet soil, you might have to look outside the bearded class for something to cross them with - and that is when things tend to get a little more complicated. Big Grin
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Apr 27, 2021 11:51 AM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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If I had wet soil, I would grow irises of different classes that like more moisture. Japanese, Louisiana, Pacificas and any others requiring more moisture.

As far as hybridizing bearded irises, I would look for traits that show vigor, strong stems, resilient petals that withstand varying types of weather, good bud count, disease-resistance, and overall good appearance.

People don't need pretty irises that don't perform well.
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Apr 27, 2021 5:05 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
I would like the individual blooms to last longer, stronger stems that don't fall over in the wind and something that makes them unattractive to animals that destroy them.
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Apr 28, 2021 7:07 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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Apr 30, 2021 2:21 AM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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Totally_Amazing said:I would like the individual blooms to last longer, stronger stems that don't fall over in the wind and something that makes them unattractive to animals that destroy them.


I agree

Slightly taller MTBs
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May 1, 2021 9:53 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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I would also like irises that have fewer buds coming out of a socket. It doesn't look attractive.
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May 2, 2021 12:39 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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I would like an iris that blooms consistently every year. I have some gorgeous irises, but they only bloom every third year year.
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May 5, 2021 10:34 AM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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I would also like the blooms to have enough substance that they do not rip easily.
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May 5, 2021 1:25 PM CST
Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)
Irises Region: Ukraine
The newer irises have much improved substance. Check out those with Haunted Heart in their pedigree, for instance.
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May 5, 2021 1:54 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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AndreaD said:The newer irises have much improved substance. Check out those with Haunted Heart in their pedigree, for instance.


I know they do. I'm feeling sullen because the wind and rain completely ripped the falls of 'Hook' and 'Zin City' to shreds on the same day they opened. They may be replaced next year. Garden space is at a premium. But I do like the colors a lot.
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May 5, 2021 5:05 PM CST
Name: Laurie
southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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Resistance to iris borer! Angry

Also, a prominent, sweet fragrance. Smiling
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May 5, 2021 5:15 PM CST
Hillsboro, MO
urania1 said:I would like an iris that blooms consistently every year. I have some gorgeous irises, but they only bloom every third year year.


I thought irises bloomed every year so why do some only bloom every three years?
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May 5, 2021 5:25 PM CST
Name: Mary
Tennessee (Zone 7a)
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TBipp said:

I thought irises bloomed every year so why do some only bloom every three years?



Well, they are supposed to bloom every year, but irises are the divas of the flower world. They tend to do what they want when they want. The older varieties bloom pretty consistently. The newer ones, less so.
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May 8, 2021 4:33 AM CST
Hillsboro, MO
One disappointment with irises is that only about 50% bloom a year after planting. It is discouraging to wait two years after buying and planting to see a bloom. It also makes it more difficult to attract newbies to irises when many perennials bloom the year they are planted while the vast majority bloom a year later.

More fragrant irises would be nice.
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May 8, 2021 5:53 AM CST
Name: Lyn Gerry
Watkins Glen, NY (Zone 6a)
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Even worse when you wait two years only to find that they send you the wrong iris! One lesson we can learn from iris is patience Smiling

TBipp said:One disappointment with irises is that only about 50% bloom a year after planting. It is discouraging to wait two years after buying and planting to see a bloom. It also makes it more difficult to attract newbies to irises when many perennials bloom the year they are planted while the vast majority bloom a year later.

More fragrant irises would be nice.
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May 8, 2021 8:18 AM CST
Name: Daisy
close to Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)
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It depends on whom you buy from. I bought 6 from Schreiners last year and all 6 are budded. I bought 6 from two smaller nurseries (3 each), and of those 6 only 3 are budded, and I need to cut the bud off of one of those because it only has one fan and no starts. It would bloom out.
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