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Name: Bob
Northeast Florida (Zone 9a)
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bobjax
May 5, 2021 6:03 PM CST
Hortaholic said:

Hi Bob @bobjax,

I wanted to read this but couldn't find it in any of your recent posts in several forums. Could you provide a link please?

Was it in a discussion of nematodes on other hosts perhaps?

Thanks,
Pat

You will see it under "Suddenly White Pollen". The conversation switched to dormancy. Then suddenly I had a revelation that Florida's dormant decline could possibly be caused by nematodes. I had a "moment". You know when you sit up in bed and ask,"Why didn't I think of that before. Now how will I prove it ?" Then I started researching daylilies and nematodes and found your post. I thought people would think I was piggybacking on your post and that my sudden revelation about nematodes was due to your post. It wasn't. But such a coincidence. So you will see I edited one post and blanked the other with a discussion about dormancy decline and nematodes and switched over here to continue the discussion. And, yes, I found and posted that same article that you posted. Easy to find when a person searches "Florida Daylily Nematodes" :-)
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Name: Ann
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Hortaholic
May 5, 2021 9:46 PM CST
[quote="bobjax"]
>>You will see it under "Suddenly White Pollen". The conversation switched to dormancy. Then suddenly I had a revelation that Florida's dormant decline could possibly be caused by nematodes. I had a "moment". You know when you sit up in bed and ask,"Why didn't I think of that before. Now how will I prove it ?"

<<<< Pat:
Good thought! And definitely didn't come from me. I didn't know Floridians had a phrase for it ("dormant decline").

>>>Bob:
Then I started researching daylilies and nematodes and found your post. I thought people would think I was piggybacking on your post and that my sudden revelation about nematodes was due to your post. It wasn't. ...

<<<<Pat:
I believe that. I thought you might be suggesting I found the link on yours! 😄. And I did want to read what you had written about it.

>>>>Bob:
Easy to find when a person searches "Florida Daylily Nematodes" :-)
https://www.google.com/search?...

<<<< Pat:
Yes, and there are other excellent articles about nematodes on daylilies and other crops in Florida. One of the best sources.

You deleted your other post and transferred the material to here? So I haven't missed anything I guess.

About the Dan Hansen videos. I've seen them before. I agree with some of his ideas expressed in the ones on plant behaviors ("foliage habits") and not others. This thread is for discussing nematodes on daylilies. I'd rather see a new thread for that topic. I'd be surprised if there isn't one already, though!

Damping off would fit better in the Germination thread?

Solarization for nematode control fits but I'm not planning to discuss that soon. Still have to unravel the ProMax issues, that's enough for me for now. And garden season is in full challenge mode!

Regards,
Pat
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
May 5, 2021 9:55 PM CST
Wow! I hadn't been on NGA in about a week and was very surprised to see the conversation about root knot nematodes still continuing. Lots of info posted here. Thank you!

I am an organic gardener, so any chemicals on my plants is something I avoid. I am wondering if these bad nematodes are more predominate in the south than in the north? I suspect they are. And I suspect they are a real issue here the further south you go. I grow daylilies in containers and in the ground. The container plants do seem to last a little longer in most cases, but eventually they succumb to .... something. I was observing some daylilies that came back this year that I thought died last year. And they are growing back nicely though not multiplying. So I continue to care for my daylilies and observe them as they thrive and then disappear in the end after a few short years. But I am always open to ideas that I can try.

I have used sterile soil and it worked for about a year, but then the nematodes found the area. Covering the ground with black plastic is also something I have done and it too work for about a year and a half. I just grow seedlings, plant them, and enjoy the show regardleess of how long they last. I have plenty of seeds to grow that will last longer than me .... no lie! Whistling Hilarious!
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
May 5, 2021 9:58 PM CST
And to throw in my .02 about damping off issue of seeds/seedlings .... I add a few drops of H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) to the water when watering them. I rarely lose a seedling to damping off. H2O2 seems to work very well for me. Just a suggestion you might try.
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Name: Jobe
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Jobe01
May 5, 2021 10:12 PM CST
Char said:

Since you are new to this website you may not be aware that there is a private email system built in called tmail. You can access your personal tmail account by clicking the envelope in the tool bar at the top right of every page. To send a tmail to another person you can also click on their name which brings up their profile page. At the top you will see "send _____ a tmail". Click it and the tmail program comes up. When someone contacts you through the tmail system your envelope will turn red.
Please use this system while conducting your personal business when on the site and stop sidetracking our discussion threads with the self promotion.
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Sorry Char, and thanks for pointing out the Tmail system. Not self-promoting, but trying to help someone who had lost a flower. I'll respond going forward in such cases via email. Jobe
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Name: Ann
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Hortaholic
May 6, 2021 12:34 AM CST
[quote="bobjax"]
>>You will see it under "Suddenly White Pollen". The conversation switched to dormancy. Then suddenly I had a revelation that Florida's dormant decline could possibly be caused by nematodes. I had a "moment". You know when you sit up in bed and ask,"Why didn't I think of that before. Now how will I prove it ?"

<<<< Pat:
Good thought! And definitely didn't come from me. I didn't know Floridians had a phrase for it ("dormant decline").

>>>Bob:
Then I started researching daylilies and nematodes and found your post. I thought people would think I was piggybacking on your post and that my sudden revelation about nematodes was due to your post. It wasn't. ...

<<<<Pat:
I believe that. I thought you might be suggesting I found the link on yours! 😄. And I did want to read what you had written about it.

>>>>Bob:
Easy to find when a person searches "Florida Daylily Nematodes" :-)
https://www.google.com/search?...

<<<< Pat:
Yes, and there are other excellent articles about nematodes on daylilies and other crops in Florida. One of the best sources.

You deleted your other post and transferred the material to here? So I haven't missed anything I guess.

About the Dan Hansen videos. I've seen them before. I agree with some of his ideas expressed in the ones on plant behaviors ("foliage habits") and not others. This thread is for discussing nematodes on daylilies. I'd rather see a new thread for that topic. I'd be surprised if there isn't one already, though!

Damping off would fit better in the Germination thread?

Solarization for nematode control fits but I'm not planning to discuss that soon. Still have to unravel the ProMax issues, that's enough for me for now. And garden season is in full challenge mode!

Regards,
Pat
Ann (formerly Pat; too many Pats) my middle name
Name: Bob
Northeast Florida (Zone 9a)
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bobjax
May 6, 2021 6:02 AM CST
beckygardener said:Wow! I hadn't been on NGA in about a week and was very surprised to see the conversation about root knot nematodes still continuing. Lots of info posted here. Thank you!

I am an organic gardener, so any chemicals on my plants is something I avoid. I am wondering if these bad nematodes are more predominate in the south than in the north? I suspect they are. And I suspect they are a real issue here the further south you go. I grow daylilies in containers and in the ground. The container plants do seem to last a little longer in most cases, but eventually they succumb to .... something. I was observing some daylilies that came back this year that I thought died last year. And they are growing back nicely though not multiplying. So I continue to care for my daylilies and observe them as they thrive and then disappear in the end after a few short years. But I am always open to ideas that I can try.

I have used sterile soil and it worked for about a year, but then the nematodes found the area. Covering the ground with black plastic is also something I have done and it too work for about a year and a half. I just grow seedlings, plant them, and enjoy the show regardless of how long they last. I have plenty of seeds to grow that will last longer than me .... no lie! Whistling Hilarious!

I read a post once that said that a friend of the writer grew amazing daylilies. The secret was they dug up the daylilies each year and replanted them. I put mine in the ground and let them sit there. I should probably reduce the amount and replant in highly organic matter each year. A side note: I used to get highly cooked organic matter and put it in my garden at my previous home. It was elephant/rhino poop compost. The zoo couldn't release it until it reached a certain temperature to cook all the pathogens. I was reading a bag of Scott's Soil yesterday. The ingredients include food wastes. Looks like pretty good dirt this year. Well composted. Still going the try to sterilize the soil for nematodes when it comes in. Read that I should use clear plastic. Thanks for the tip about damp off. And you a right about the seedlings. Maybe I should just grow a crop of daylilies seedlings like biennials. Smiling My best flowering daylilies this year so far are my seedlings planted in 2019.
Name: Ann
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Hortaholic
May 6, 2021 8:00 PM CST
I don't know why my posts are showing up twice sometimes. I deleted the content on one when that happened before.
That seemed to confuse ppl. So I'll just apologize and say I'll try to figure how to avoid it.
Too much to do to write today and maybe not tomorrow. I'll be reading though.👍🏻
Pat
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