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Name: Bobbie Jo
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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PhoenixFire
Jun 19, 2021 10:14 AM CST
valleylynn said:Hi PhoenixFire, and welcome. What are your growing conditions for 'Ruby Heart'? Can you give us some background on where you live?
I see what looks like offsets starting between the leaves. Hurray!


Thank You!
This plant has been growing in an urn-shaped pot since I got it a year ago. Last summer I pulled 5 chicks off it, and they are all growing nicely in their own pots. Smiling I live in Pennsylvania (6b). The plant overwintered in my unheated, south-facing, enclosed porch. There does seem to be a couple chicks forming towards the bottom leaves, but what you see in the photo looks like very small leaves forming. I suspect this plant may bloom, but time will tell. Here is a picture of it last October, right before I took it in for the winter. Smiling


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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 19, 2021 11:27 AM CST

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Bobbie Jo, can you take a close up, down low photo of the short leaves that are forming? And a shot straight down into the center of the rosette? The large size and odd placement of new leaf growth probably is pointing to blooming.
Name: Bobbie Jo
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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PhoenixFire
Jun 20, 2021 7:15 AM CST
valleylynn said:Bobbie Jo, can you take a close up, down low photo of the short leaves that are forming? And a shot straight down into the center of the rosette? The large size and odd placement of new leaf growth probably is pointing to blooming.


I was thinking the same thing. And those "chicks" might be additional bloom stalks as well. No worries though! I still have 4 nice sized chicks from last summer, and one has quite a few chicks of its own on it (last pic). I gave the 5th one to a friend who is absolutely thrilled with hers. Smiling


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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 20, 2021 10:37 AM CST

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Bobbie Jo, from your new photos it is difficult to tell if the rosette will bloom this year. Maybe it won't bloom until later in this growing season?
I see it is still wanting to put out what looks to be a normal offset.
Enjoy the bloom when it comes. Hope you share a photo of it.
Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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GeologicalForms
Jun 20, 2021 12:35 PM CST
Bobbie Jo,
Normally if they are setting fresh chicks they won't bloom the same season. I agree with Lynn that there is a possibility towards the end of the summer, but generally it's either chicks or blooms. Though it's not common, occasionally one will try to do both. That always looks a-mess because the little chicks will sometimes try to bloom also, producing a single flower and/or a few mutated ones and elongating in all directions. I doubt that will happen to your plant though.
-Sol
Name: Bobbie Jo
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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PhoenixFire
Jun 21, 2021 6:32 AM CST
Thank you, Lynn and Sol! I'll be sure to keep you updated. What a lovely place this forum is, and I'm happy I found it. Lovey dubby
Romania, Mures (Zone 6b)
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PaleoTemp
Jun 21, 2021 8:57 AM CST
GeologicalForms said:Bobbie Jo,
Normally if they are setting fresh chicks they won't bloom the same season. I agree with Lynn that there is a possibility towards the end of the summer, but generally it's either chicks or blooms. Though it's not common, occasionally one will try to do both. That always looks a-mess because the little chicks will sometimes try to bloom also, producing a single flower and/or a few mutated ones and elongating in all directions. I doubt that will happen to your plant though.
-Sol


I have noticed that if a chick decides to bloom for the start of the season that will generally not put any chick.
Using that I kind of figured out those that are going to bloom.

There is the situation in which a hen produced 5 chicks towards the fall? Next summer the hen bloomed and the next year all the 5 chicks bloomed without putting any offsets.
I wonder if the stolons still being connected to the hen makes a difference for those cultivars.

Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 21, 2021 10:22 AM CST

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Bobbie Jo, I am happy you found us. It is such a wonderful environment in which to learn and share. Smiling

Paleo, I cut stolons from the blooming rosette as soon as I see signs that it is going to bloom. When I don't do that, in most cases the offsets also tend to bloom the same year, or following spring. It happened with 'Persephone' and 'Generaal'.
Romania, Mures (Zone 6b)
Sedums Sempervivums Region: Europe Roses
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PaleoTemp
Jun 21, 2021 10:28 AM CST
valleylynn said:Bobbie Jo, I am happy you found us. It is such a wonderful environment in which to learn and share. Smiling

Paleo, I cut stolons from the blooming rosette as soon as I see signs that it is going to bloom. When I don't do that, in most cases the offsets also tend to bloom the same year, or following spring. It happened with 'Persephone' and 'Generaal'.


Good, I am going to do the same, I have only done it on a couple of times.

Romania, Mures (Zone 6b)
Sedums Sempervivums Region: Europe Roses
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PaleoTemp
Jun 21, 2021 10:41 AM CST
Just a moment ago I cut the stolons on Gele Komeet, this year's chicks on the hen transformed into blooms, last year's haven't.
Name: Sol Zimmerdahl
Portland, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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GeologicalForms
Jul 2, 2021 11:26 PM CST
Paleo,
I do the same thing Lynn does if I have a rare/low quantity of a variety and it begins to flower I lop the stolons as soon as I see the rosette begin to cone. My theory is that the bloom hormone transfers through the active stolon causing those little blooms, where an older stolon which is hard or dead is far less likely to do this.
-Sol

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