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May 3, 2021 5:48 PM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
Okay, first let me say I don't have the room for the beautiful gardens some of you have. *Blush*

My two Daylily "beds" consist of a single row along my driveway (planted last year) and a single row along my side fence. I have just put in this bed and should be receiving/ planting the DLs in the next couple of weeks. They are all different colors and seasons (E to ML), and range in height from 20" to 34".

My question is, how should I arrange them in terms of height? My yard slopes down from my house to the road, so that the bed also slopes (maybe 30 degrees or so). Would you put the shorter ones up top getting taller toward the road to kind of even the heights? Or put shorter on both ends and taller in the middle? Or forget about the height completely and just plant them according to what I think will look good together???
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May 3, 2021 6:37 PM CST
Name: Wendy
mid-Atlantic (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Heirlooms Herbs Hostas Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers
I think I would do random heighta and concentrate more on distributing the bloom timing throughout the garden and planning color combinations that would please me.

With daylilies you can't go wrong whatever you decide, though Yvonne!

And you will love how your iris show leads right into the dayllies! Tuck in a few small annuals to extend your garden season and fill in the gaps while your plants increase in size over several seasons. Smiling
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May 3, 2021 7:56 PM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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I think looking at the size of the fans you receive will help you make you decision. Putting tiny fans between two sets of huge fans will be problematic. If the smaller ones are shaded by the larger ones they won't do well & you'll have to move them later.

Otherwise just do what makes you happy!
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May 4, 2021 11:34 AM CST
Name: Justine
Maryville, Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Hybridizer Cat Lover Birds Daylilies Tropicals Farmer
Apples Peonies Irises Lilies Deer Greenhouse
It may also help to take note of where the sun is, as you want all of them to get some sun and not have the shorter and smaller ones shaded that way. East or West may not be a big deal. If things slope down towards the north, certainly plant the shorter guys up nearer the house on the sunny side. If the slope faces south, your options are broader and maybe you give the passers-by your best view by putting smaller ones near the road. Consider the viewpoint.

I primarily orient mine in the growing field according to how much I value them, putting the less desirable stuff in harm's way. If the deer make it past the crappy temporary fencing and ignore the milorganite, they will munch first on stuff that won't break my heart.

Many incoming DLs seem to be in the low 30s height-wise so I then try to consider aletrnating complimentary colors and shades. What neighbor DLs would look good in a picture? They generally don't look their best when put next to similar-but-slightly-different shades. I learned that from my old "reds" bed.
Red put next to not-the-same red? Ugh for both! Paired with yellow, purple, white, orange... yes! Sticking tongue out
Red and bright pink? Nah. Red and pale pink or orchid? Yes! Lovey dubby
Pastel yellow and bright yellow? Nope- the pastel will be devalued. Crying
Patterns that echo the shading of a neighbor? Yes! Hurray!

And, hey- you can always move 'em!
I wonder why no one ever told me
that the rainbow and the treasure
were both within me. -- Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.
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May 4, 2021 12:39 PM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
Don’t trust all-purpose glue.
Garden Ideas: Level 1
Hembrain said:It may also help to take note of where the sun is, as you want all of them to get some sun and not have the shorter and smaller ones shaded that way. East or West may not be a big deal. If things slope down towards the north, certainly plant the shorter guys up nearer the house on the sunny side. If the slope faces south, your options are broader and maybe you give the passers-by your best view by putting smaller ones near the road. Consider the viewpoint.

I primarily orient mine in the growing field according to how much I value them, putting the less desirable stuff in harm's way. If the deer make it past the crappy temporary fencing and ignore the milorganite, they will munch first on stuff that won't break my heart.

Many incoming DLs seem to be in the low 30s height-wise so I then try to consider aletrnating complimentary colors and shades. What neighbor DLs would look good in a picture? They generally don't look their best when put next to similar-but-slightly-different shades. I learned that from my old "reds" bed.
Red put next to not-the-same red? Ugh for both! Paired with yellow, purple, white, orange... yes! Sticking tongue out
Red and bright pink? Nah. Red and pale pink or orchid? Yes! Lovey dubby
Pastel yellow and bright yellow? Nope- the pastel will be devalued. Crying
Patterns that echo the shading of a neighbor? Yes! Hurray!

And, hey- you can always move 'em!


Ginny G says you can't go wrong with purple next to purple next to purple next to purple next to purple.

Charley
I’d rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.
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May 4, 2021 1:26 PM CST
Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
Daylilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower
Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing Hilarious!
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May 4, 2021 1:52 PM CST
Name: Justine
Maryville, Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Hybridizer Cat Lover Birds Daylilies Tropicals Farmer
Apples Peonies Irises Lilies Deer Greenhouse
Yes!!!!! I agree Viva la purple! Hilarious!
I wonder why no one ever told me
that the rainbow and the treasure
were both within me. -- Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.
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May 4, 2021 2:45 PM CST
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
Butterflies Cat Lover Daylilies Seed Starter Region: Tennessee
I would put the shorter ones on the ends, and the taller ones in the middle.
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May 4, 2021 4:11 PM CST

Big take away is do whatever suits you. You can change it later if you don't like it. But hey they are all daylilies
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May 4, 2021 4:28 PM CST
KY (Zone 6b)
Region: Kentucky Daylilies
My daylily beds are jumbled; however, I do try to plant "compatible" colors!
And - I move them if they don't do well in one spot or just don't "look right"!
A 30 degree slope - I think I would plan for a continuously blooming bed and space them accordingly - again, with compatible colors, not so much by height as by bloom time.
But, honestly, you can't go wrong - and it's not set in stone. Good luck Crossing Fingers!
“My garden is my most beautiful masterpiece” - Claude Monet
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May 4, 2021 7:59 PM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
Hembrain said:It may also help to take note of where the sun is, as you want all of them to get some sun and not have the shorter and smaller ones shaded that way. East or West may not be a big deal. If things slope down towards the north, certainly plant the shorter guys up nearer the house on the sunny side. If the slope faces south, your options are broader and maybe you give the passers-by your best view by putting smaller ones near the road. Consider the viewpoint.

I primarily orient mine in the growing field according to how much I value them, putting the less desirable stuff in harm's way. If the deer make it past the crappy temporary fencing and ignore the milorganite, they will munch first on stuff that won't break my heart.

Many incoming DLs seem to be in the low 30s height-wise so I then try to consider aletrnating complimentary colors and shades. What neighbor DLs would look good in a picture? They generally don't look their best when put next to similar-but-slightly-different shades. I learned that from my old "reds" bed.
Red put next to not-the-same red? Ugh for both! Paired with yellow, purple, white, orange... yes! Sticking tongue out
Red and bright pink? Nah. Red and pale pink or orchid? Yes! Lovey dubby
Pastel yellow and bright yellow? Nope- the pastel will be devalued. Crying
Patterns that echo the shading of a neighbor? Yes! Hurray!

And, hey- you can always move 'em!


Honestly, I always have difficulty with figuring out how plants are facing. If I look out my front door I am facing W by SW. If I stand at the top of my gardens and look down the row I am looking the same W by SW. is that what you mean by facing? Both beds are in full sun most of the day. My existing garden gets some early morning shadow from the house, while the new bed I don't think is ever really in shade.
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May 4, 2021 8:41 PM CST
Name: Justine
Maryville, Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Hybridizer Cat Lover Birds Daylilies Tropicals Farmer
Apples Peonies Irises Lilies Deer Greenhouse
Yes, Yvonne, that's what I mean. Sounds like you will be in great shape! They will be facing the sun as it progresses in the afternoon, and nobody gets left out. That's a pretty significant slope! DLs display so well on a slope. I'm sure it will look fantastic! What are you most excited about getting?
I wonder why no one ever told me
that the rainbow and the treasure
were both within me. -- Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.
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May 5, 2021 5:03 AM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
Hembrain said:Yes, Yvonne, that's what I mean. Sounds like you will be in great shape! They will be facing the sun as it progresses in the afternoon, and nobody gets left out. That's a pretty significant slope! DLs display so well on a slope. I'm sure it will look fantastic! What are you most excited about getting?


I'm excited about all of them! Hurray!
I went with some tried and true older cultivars: Fooled Me, Indian Giver, Tuscawilla Tigress, El Desperado, Margo Reed Indeed, Entwined in the Vine, Primal Scream, Cradle of Bethlehem, and a nice red NOID that I currently have potted. I think I may plant a Happy Returns on each end to give some continuity with the other bed, which has a Happy returns between each of the bigger plants.
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May 5, 2021 6:40 AM CST
Name: Justine
Maryville, Tennessee (Zone 7a)
Hybridizer Cat Lover Birds Daylilies Tropicals Farmer
Apples Peonies Irises Lilies Deer Greenhouse
That's a beautiful mix! The kind that makes visitors NEED more daylilies. Hilarious!

BTW, it's funny- I was thinking about my El Desperado clump when I referred to pastel yellow. I love the flower but it doesn't play well with clear yellow friends.
I wonder why no one ever told me
that the rainbow and the treasure
were both within me. -- Gerald G. Jampolsky, M.D.
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May 5, 2021 9:15 AM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
Hembrain said:That's a beautiful mix! The kind that makes visitors NEED more daylilies. Hilarious!

BTW, it's funny- I was thinking about my El Desperado clump when I referred to pastel yellow. I love the flower but it doesn't play well with clear yellow friends.


Haha, yes I am planning to put at least 4 plants between El Desperado and Fooled Me. Then, Cradle of Bethlehem also has a lot of yellow so I have to factor that in too. It's like a puzzle, trying to fit all the pieces together. Blinking
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May 5, 2021 10:16 AM CST
Name: Charley
Arroyo Seco New Mexico (Zone 4b)
Don’t trust all-purpose glue.
Garden Ideas: Level 1
MrsMud said:

Haha, yes I am planning to put at least 4 plants between El Desperado and Fooled Me. Then, Cradle of Bethlehem also has a lot of yellow so I have to factor that in too. It's like a puzzle, trying to fit all the pieces together. Blinking


It is like a puzzle but unlike so many puzzles that have but a single solution this one will have many. So much fun!

Charley
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May 6, 2021 5:30 AM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
Late to the party, so maybe these are already in the ground, but I was curious on the height, bloom season and colors of MrsMud's daylilies, so I did a kind of visual chart. In no particular order, but here it is. I like the idea of Happy Returns on both ends and also like Debra's suggestion of putting the shorter ones on the end and taller ones in the middle. I think it is a good mix of colors and seasons.


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May 6, 2021 10:00 AM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
blue23rose said:Late to the party, so maybe these are already in the ground, but I was curious on the height, bloom season and colors of MrsMud's daylilies, so I did a kind of visual chart. In no particular order, but here it is. I like the idea of Happy Returns on both ends and also like Debra's suggestion of putting the shorter ones on the end and taller ones in the middle. I think it is a good mix of colors and seasons.


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Awesome, thank you! I value everyone's advice. I'm having a hard time keeping all my yellows apart AND putting them near complimentary colors AND arranging them by height, so I gave up on the height and am focusing more on color and bloom times. I also think I may switch El Desperado with Good Impression from my other bed. I think El Desperado should look good between Red Volunteer and Bela Lugosi in my other bed and Good Impression will be easier to work into my new bed, being a solid color.
You may have realized by now I am somewhat of an obsessive planner. 🤪
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May 7, 2021 7:00 PM CST
Name: Wendy
mid-Atlantic (Zone 6b)
Daylilies Heirlooms Herbs Hostas Irises Native Plants and Wildflowers
Yvonne - if you are a planner, I recommend making basic maps of your gardens if you haven't already done that - I note height and bloom time on my maps, which helps me figure out where to put new ones or where I might want to move something. It's easier to try your plan on paper before you start digging. It also helps in remembering what you put where when the flowers are not in bloom. Smiling
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May 8, 2021 6:20 PM CST
Name: Yvonne
Long Island (Zone 7a)
New Daylily and Iris Gardener
robinjoy said:Yvonne - if you are a planner, I recommend making basic maps of your gardens if you haven't already done that - I note height and bloom time on my maps, which helps me figure out where to put new ones or where I might want to move something. It's easier to try your plan on paper before you start digging. It also helps in remembering what you put where when the flowers are not in bloom. Smiling


Oh yes I am a planner! My family laughs at how many times they see me shuffling my flower photos around like I'm playing solitaire!


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