Peonies forum→3rd Year..Blah! Dig Up in Fall?

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Connecticut (Zone 6b)
krazyquilter
May 7, 2021 9:20 PM CST
When is it time to call it a day? I see that some gardeners don't get a flower for 5 years..I know patience is a virtue.. but 3rd spring now with my Coral Sunset, it is still short and hasn't produced any buds (2nd yr the deer chomped it early). Angel Cheeks had one flower first year, none the second and no buds this 3rd year, also still small plant. Both were unimpressive roots to start from Hollingsworth.

My peonies are slow growing and most mature bushes do not reach massive widths (8-12 stalks), probably since they only get full sun early in the growing season. Now that the trees have leafed out, they get 5-6 hrs. They are healthy and do produce flowering buds on most all of the stalks, so I am content with that. My patience is wearing thin, however, with the 2 mentioned above. I hate not to give them a chance, since I know that if I transplant I am absolutely back to square one!
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
May 7, 2021 9:49 PM CST
Next year will be my 3rd year with some peonies from Hollingsworth. So far only Firebelle and Felix Supreme came up. I think I ordered about 10 roots, so about 20%.
2022 wishlist: Blonde Vision.
Connecticut (Zone 6b)
krazyquilter
May 7, 2021 10:03 PM CST
Thanks for feedback, SoCal! I'm sticking with Adelman's. Will you dig up after next season if they don't bloom, or keep trying a few more years?
Name: Bea
(Zone 8b)
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bumplbea
May 7, 2021 10:14 PM CST
Peonies are like that... slow to mature. Give it time and you'll be glad you did. I waited 4 years for the tree peonies to bloom. They are 4 1/2 -5' tall. That was 25 years ago and they bloom every year right on time.
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I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
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Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
May 8, 2021 8:06 AM CST
krazyquilter said:Thanks for feedback, SoCal! I'm sticking with Adelman's. Will you dig up after next season if they don't bloom, or keep trying a few more years?


I already did last year, I moved them to my alley, Shirley Temple is still tiny. Command Performance was already dead, the root was eaten by pill bugs. I decided no more buying from Hollingsworth. Alderman's sent me great roots, but I planted them in the wrong place so even though I had buds, but only one did bloom for me.
2022 wishlist: Blonde Vision.
Name: Jasmin
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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Jasmin
May 8, 2021 10:10 AM CST
bumplbea said:Peonies are like that... slow to mature. Give it time and you'll be glad you did. I waited 4 years for the tree peonies to bloom. They are 4 1/2 -5' tall. That was 25 years ago and they bloom every year right on time.
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Bea, I thought you might keep horses when I saw the picture above. Then I noticed the horse badge. Hope you keep them far away from your beautiful TPs. Just of curiosity, do they eat TPs?
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
Name: Bea
(Zone 8b)
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bumplbea
May 9, 2021 12:46 AM CST
Oh good eye Jasmine... the horses manage to get out and snack on the garden goodies when the deer break the hot wire fence . Another concern are the deer...they are a huge problem.
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Deer...
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A peony this am.
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I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
May 9, 2021 5:35 AM CST

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I love those pics, Bea!! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
LG - My garden grows with love and a lot of hard work.
Name: Bea
(Zone 8b)
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bumplbea
May 9, 2021 6:14 AM CST
Ah.. thanks .. the horses when tied up to the hitchen post when peony's in bloom will just stare at them. So far so good they haven't pigged out on any of my plants. They have me trained to clap my hands when they get any ideas to sneak a bite. A spray bottle helps too.
One of my dogs will fake bite at my flowers just to tease me.. 😆 No joke she does it for attention.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”
Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
May 9, 2021 8:23 AM CST

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I love it, Bea!!

They all just love attention.
LG - My garden grows with love and a lot of hard work.
Name: Helen
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Minyatur
May 9, 2021 3:52 PM CST
Could it be the weather? I am a little south from you and the last 3 years were pretty bad with a lot of bud blast for me. Almost half of my peonies are from Hollingsworth and only three were lackluster performers. Lemon chiffon, pink Hawaiian coral, and Bartzella. They are on their fourth year and they exploded this year (I think the additional snow brought some nice chill time). I am only unsatisfied with the struggling bartzella, my big box store was 1/2 price, thriving, and 5x bigger.

The roots from Hollingsworth are super tiny for the price, but I never had any issues with performance from most of them. I usually get 1-3 blooms from their roots on the first year. I hope they perform for you soon!
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Name: aka Annie
WA-rural 8a to (Zone 7b)
Sandsock
May 9, 2021 10:21 PM CST
KrazyQuilter...My Coral Sunset took 4 years to bloom even 1 bloom. I did fertilize it this last fall and it has 5 blooms this year.
Name: Alex
Toronto, Ontario
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AlexUnder
May 10, 2021 12:04 PM CST
I am getting blooms from presumably Mme. Calot that I got for 1 or 3 dollars - do not remember - on sale at the local nursery in the pot. 3 years...not too bad, I thought it could be longer as roots were super tiny - 3 pieces in a pretty small pot...
Connecticut (Zone 6b)
krazyquilter
May 11, 2021 8:52 PM CST
Thanks to all for advice/suggestions...I will most likely leave them be and impatiently wait until next year to see what happens! From one extreme to the other, I planted Sonoma Welcome last fall, it has seven large buds! Couldn't bring myself to remove any of them.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
May 24, 2021 11:18 AM CST
bumplbea said:Oh good eye Jasmine... the horses manage to get out and snack on the garden goodies when the deer break the hot wire fence . Another concern are the deer...they are a huge problem.
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A peony this am.
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Love the horses but not the deers how cute and innocent they may look!
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Vals_Garden
Jan 9, 2022 4:04 PM CST
A few months late with my comment Bea Rolling on the floor laughing but maybe early for 2022 Whistling - have you tried double fences to keep out the deer? We have a huge apple tree on the garden/pasture fence line which hangs on to its apples very late some years and the deer arrive late Fall & over Winter. To keep them jumping our 4-5 foot rail fence we put up a snow fence just about 8 - 10 feet away on the field side. The gap is not big enough for deer to jump into and then out of but too big for them to clear both fences in one jump. This method saves the expense of installing one ten foot fence.
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Hiyamakki
Jan 10, 2022 10:18 AM CST
Do they get stuck in the middle?
Name: SoCal
Orange County (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
Jan 10, 2022 10:20 AM CST
krazyquilter said:Thanks to all for advice/suggestions...I will most likely leave them be and impatiently wait until next year to see what happens! From one extreme to the other, I planted Sonoma Welcome last fall, it has seven large buds! Couldn't bring myself to remove any of them.


I'm glad to read this about Sonoma Welcome.
2022 wishlist: Blonde Vision.
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Region: Canadian Seller of Garden Stuff Peonies Hybridizer Irises Daylilies
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Vals_Garden
Jan 10, 2022 10:29 AM CST
Quote; "The gap is not big enough for deer to jump into and then out of but too big for them to clear both fences in one jump" - and they are too smart to even try Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Bea
(Zone 8b)
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bumplbea
Jan 10, 2022 8:29 PM CST
Thank You! Valerie .. that's a great idea. I tip my hat to you.
I’m so busy... “I don’t know if I found a rope or lost a horse.”

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