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May 24, 2021 11:46 PM CST
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I was just reading the thread where people talked about the roses they've ordered for 2021, and I was amazed! So many people are ordering so many roses from multiple vendors! Can someone tell me why that is? Is it that no one vendor has all the roses you desire? And are there any particular vendors that come highly recommended as well as ones I should avoid?
Thank You!
May 25, 2021 1:36 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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You've answered one of your questions: No one vendor has all the roses we desire. Some vendors specialize in modern roses and others carry mainly old garden roses. Some sell only the most popular cultivars and others include more elusive roses in their offerings. There are other reasons as well. I, for example, have always preferred grafted roses, but some roses are available only own-root, so I've bought roses from own-root nurseries when I couldn't find them in the grafted form at my favorite nurseries.

As for recommendations, our rose nursery report card threads probably provide the most comprehensive answers to that question.

The thread "Rose Nursery Report Card for 2018-2019 Season" in Roses forum
The thread "Rose Nursery Report Card for 2019-2020 Season" in Roses forum

If you have questions about specific nurseries, please don't hesitate to ask us for our opinions. We're happy to help.
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May 25, 2021 3:04 AM CST
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@zuzu Thanks very much, that is immensely helpful! Can you also tell me the difference between grafted roses and own-root roses? It's my understanding that own-root roses are more common, is that correct?
May 25, 2021 7:37 AM CST
NW Washington Islands (Zone 8b)
Organic Gardener Region: Pacific Northwest Roses
I'm not Zuzu but I can answer part of your question.

Own-root roses are just that - roses that are grown on their own root system vs. grafted roses which are roses that have been grafted on to another roses root stock.

Example: 'Joseph's Coat' rose grafted onto 'Dr. Huey' rose root stock. If, something happens to Joseph's Coat - (weather, over zealous pruning, lawn mower accident, etc) that takes the rose down to the ground/root, next year you will likely have a 'Dr. Huey' rose growing.

One of the pros of grafted roses is that they generally grow more vigorously, at least for the the first few years. 99% of the roses that can be purchased at the big chain stores (Home Depot, Walmart, etc) are grafted roses which are much cheaper (and more readily available) than the ones we all rave about on the "what we ordered" threads.

I have both. I like both, however I live with an over zealous pruner - bless his trying to be helpful soul - so I have been purchasing more own-root roses the past couple of years Sticking tongue out There are many more pros/cons and opinions out there. Hopefully others will jump in and provide their experience! Edited to add: I have 5 'Dr. Huey's' in my yard - I have never purchased a 'Dr. Huey' rose.
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May 25, 2021 2:01 PM CST
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Oh wow, I had no idea! Thanks so much!
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May 28, 2021 3:29 PM CST
Name: aka Annie
WA-rural 8a to (Zone 7b)
My soil does not like Dr. Huey at all, but that is what I can get locally. I order own root as they tend to really take off in my soil. Finally, some roses actually have a more powerful scent on own root, which I want.

As for ordering from different growers, sometimes shipping miles really adds to the cost, sometimes my state has requirements for eastern rose growers that makes it difficult...for instance, spraying against fire ants and japanese beetles. It is just easier/cheaper for me to order roses from west coast growers.
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