Could this seedling be a candidate?
Started on Aug 2nd and finished about 4 weeks later - Techny Peach Lace x Late Starter:
blue23rose said:Hi Sue! I took a look at your registrations and they are very nice! I especially like 'Gekko Garden Miss Melba'. I love that they are late and very late for you.
blue23rose said:As far as what the season extenders should look like, I would be inclined to love anything that would start blooming in August or September. I tend to like taller daylilies like the ones you have registered (over 36 inches).Up to now I can say that starting in August is quite easy with dips but much more difficult in tets, but I'm working on it. Do you like taller daylilies during the whole season or is tall better in August or September?
blue23rose said:It is too bad about the import ban, but being proactive may prevent spread of the disease until hopefully treatment is found. I have lost four roses to Rose Rosette Disease, also no treatment found to date, and it is spreading more all the time in the US.
Oh Yes! That is a beauty! If it blooms above the foliage, it's a keeper in my garden. I like daylilies with blooms that are proportionate to the height. I tend not to like 6-inch blooms on a 20-inch daylily.
I can't give any advice on late and extra late hybridizing, but I will say I admire your selection of a goal!
I find your post very interesting and will follow your efforts. I had never even given any consideration to the colors matching the seasons ,if is that what you were saying. Do you get any rebloom?
I was told that Xylella fastidiosa is not frost hardy - I completely understand the problems in warmer climate (winegrowing friends in Italy are frustrated about the disease), but as far as I know the bacterial strain that is responsible for the problems was importet with coffee plants an is not able to survive in daylilies. But daylilies are not a popular garden plant in Europe and so nobody cares.
Unfortunately daylilies have been recorded as a host of Xylella fastidiosa, see Table 1 here:
There's an article on its possible cold hardiness in Europe here:
sooby said:Have you thought about purchasing daylily seeds of the lines you want from North America?
sooby said:Also some of the species daylilies flower quite late.
sooby said:I understand that H. fulva var. littorea is late but 'Kwanso' and H. fulva var. rosea are not particularly late where I am (also 'Kwanso' is triploid without normal female parts so can't set pods although the pollen might work sometimes).
sooby said:This year I've got a plant that might be H. multiflora - a very long flowering tall yellow one - hopefully it is the right one. Sandra Elizabeth was my first very late cultivar - but it usually starts at peak bloom here and seldom flowers longer than Mid of August.
Hemerocallis multiflora flowers so late here it never gets finished before the weather turns too cold. The standard late here is 'Sandra Elizabeth' but I find Hemerocallis citrina and H. thunbergii flower fairly late also.
sooby said:I don't know if anyone on the Lily Auction (for some reason not called the Daylily Auction even though it isn't for lilies) exports seeds, it might be worth a look.
I don't keep up much with who is breeding for what but it kind of makes sense to go for lates anywhere there is, or could be in time, the Hemerocallis gall midge.
bxncbx said:Olallie Daylily Gardens in Vermont has a special focus on late and very late daylilies but most of them aren't registered. I have several. If you look at my plant list under unregistered you'll see the ones I have. All are dips though.
bxncbx said:Melanie Mason bred and sold some late blooming tets. Unfortunately, she went out of business last year. I have her Never Too Late. Some other later blooming tets I bought from her are Guava Jelly, Sanibel Coral & Bridgeton Eyecatcher.
bxncbx said:That is good to hear - I love all of them and try to offer a wide range of colors and flower forms.
I also have mixed daylily beds but I wouldn't worry too much about the colors. I think most daylily colors would work with many of autumn plants. I think the hardest color might be purple but reds, pinks, yellow, orange and brown would all be fine.
bxncbx said:I love your red seedling! I have a late blooming NOID dip that looks very similar. And I would definitely buy Peach Party. It's gorgeous and it reblooms!
sooby said:Interesting about your 'Sandra Elizabeth' because it starts much later here. 'Susan Elizabeth' on the other hand is probably closer to the flowering time for your 'Sandra Elizabeth'.I've never heard about a 'Susan Elizabeth' before - for two years I tried to get Sandra Elizabeth because I was told it is the benchmark for very late flowering daylilies. The plant I've got finally looks like the right one (size/flower size and form). See pictures of my one below.
My Hemerocallis multiflora is not particularly tall.
sooby said:I'm never quite sure what is being described as Hemerocallis citrina baroni! There is actually no such name (somewhere on this forum there is a more detailed discussion on that). So it could be any of three things from my understanding. It could be Hemerocallis citrina, it could be something someone called Hemercallis citrina "Baroni clone" presumably indicating the clone originally described, or it could be the hybrid cultivar 'Baroni' which is H. thunbergii x H. citrina (Sprenger 1903). So it makes it potentially difficult to compare.
sooby said:For importing seeds you would need to check your own agricultural authority because they make the determinations as to what is required. Countries often allow small amounts of seeds without a phytosanitary certificate.Thanks for the hint - I will check this.