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Name: Sue
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SueVT
May 31, 2021 9:23 AM CST
I have one promising plant with broken color, it is a child of HNF and Explosion in the Paint Factory. I am interested in getting it to increase; are here any special things I can do to make this happen?

Also, I saw on a FB group that Blame it on the Rain is not coming out looking much like the photos we were seeing when it came out in 2019. Has to be a disappointment for the people who paid $$$ at that point.
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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
May 31, 2021 1:33 PM CST
I'm not sure if I understand your question - I grow some striped cultivar in my garden and they show the flowers I expected, but not all are fast growing northern hardy plants. Some of the seedlings from this parents show similar patterns - they are consistent in color and pattern intensity but time will tell if they are good enough to register them.

Patterns look better here if the plants get only sun until noon and a little shade in the afternoon.

Undefinable and Explosion in the Paint Factory are unique beauties in my garden, I'm very happy to have them here - today I found the first small scape for this season on Undefinable.

Undefinable
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Explosion in the Paint Factory
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Name: Zoia Bologovsky
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May 31, 2021 2:27 PM CST
I think your plant will increase if it's happy. Plenty of sun unless it seems to need some shade, water, happy organic soil amendments. Other than that it's up to the individual plant. Just like people, some do great, some don't. Some are slow to grow, some go crazy. All you can do is give it the best conditions you have.
Name: Sue
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Nightlily
May 31, 2021 11:55 PM CST
SueVT said:I have one promising plant with broken color, it is a child of HNF and Explosion in the Paint Factory.

I don't know the abbreviation HNF but Explosion in the Paint Factory is a fast growing plant in my garden. Up to now I only have seedlings from a single cross with Explosion in the Paint factory here that will be able to flower this year - and they all are vigorous from the beginning too.

I always keep special plants potted so I can better take care for them - usually they grow faster with the best potting soil outside the crowded beds.

Name: Sue
Vermont (Zone 5a)
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SueVT
Jun 1, 2021 1:34 AM CST
thank you very much for the advice!!! Thank You!

I may dig and pot this plant.... still not sure. Here is a photo from last year:

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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 1, 2021 2:30 AM CST
What a beauty! I would definitely give it a litte extra care Thumbs up
Name: Robin
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RobinSeeds
Jun 1, 2021 9:59 AM CST
Nightlily said:
I don't know the abbreviation HNF but Explosion in the Paint Factory is a fast growing plant in my garden.

Hi Nightlily, HNF is an abbreviation for "Heavenly New Frontiers". I don't have it but I did purchase a single fan of 'EITPF' and hoping it's a vigorous grower here. Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 1, 2021 11:08 AM CST
RobinSeeds said:
Hi Nightlily, HNF is an abbreviation for "Heavenly New Frontiers". I don't have it but I did purchase a single fan of 'EITPF' and hoping it's a vigorous grower here. Crossing Fingers!


Thanks for the explanation - I do know Heavenly New Frontiers but I assume that it was never imported in the EU so it is out of reach, no matter how much you are willing to pay for it. I've got my EITPF from a collector in northern Germany (quite cold there) and ist growing fast there too - so Crossing Fingers! for you!
Name: Sue
Vermont (Zone 5a)
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SueVT
Jun 1, 2021 11:30 AM CST
I have about 800-900 seedlings right now, most are 3rd year, and most of them have HNF as one of the parents. It's very interesting to see the similarities between different HNF crosses. I have quite a few that have large size and similar coloration to HNF, and others which have size, similar form, but very different colorations...

There are also some with doubling, which I like rather a lot. This year I have to cull, but it's going to be hard to do!


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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jun 1, 2021 11:39 AM CST
Nightlily said:

Thanks for the explanation - I do know Heavenly New Frontiers but I assume that it was never imported in the EU so it is out of reach, no matter how much you are willing to pay for it.


It's listed as "sold out" on this Belgian site so presumably did make it to Europe:

https://www.eurodaylily.com/in...
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Jun 1, 2021 11:55 AM CST
SueVT said:I have one promising plant with broken color, it is a child of HNF and Explosion in the Paint Factory. I am interested in getting it to increase; are here any special things I can do to make this happen?

Also, I saw on a FB group that Blame it on the Rain is not coming out looking much like the photos we were seeing when it came out in 2019. Has to be a disappointment for the people who paid $$$ at that point.


I am currently performing an experiment with sister seedlings, which are not growing fast enough for me. One set I am spraying with the plant growth hormone Gibberelic Acid (GA), and the other is my control. GA-treatment apparently is awesome to break seed dormancy, but also can help plants themselves grow and flower aswell. It is not well studied in daylilies (but there is an old thread on here that talks about it). It has only been a couple days so I see no differences yet. But I will let you know if the GA-treated ones take off like crazy.
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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 1, 2021 12:05 PM CST
sooby said:

It's listed as "sold out" on this Belgian site so presumably did make it to Europe:

https://www.eurodaylily.com/in...


Thanks for this information - over the last years I bought some of my most expensive daylilies there and this was no waste of money so I will ask Paul if there is a long waiting list for this cultivar. I am interested in getting on a list for one of his cristate plants too.
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Name: Sue
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SueVT
Jun 1, 2021 7:59 PM CST
Eurodaylily is a username on the daylily auction site, who regularly purchases expensive cultivars and crosses. I expect that they have HNF, but you could ask the hybridizer
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Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Jun 1, 2021 10:46 PM CST
@SueVT I feel for you, I hope there aren't a lot to be culled. 101-4 and 0333-2 are both exquisite! I'm quite fond (understated to seem less insane) of the broken and striped cultivars, I'm really hoping to see some of those pics this summer!

@sooby you're always so helpful you've got a lot of knowledge under that wide brimmed gardening hat. I tip my hat to you. Thank You!

@plasko20, it sounds like fun...keep us posted!
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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 2, 2021 12:57 AM CST
SueVT said:Eurodaylily is a username on the daylily auction site, who regularly purchases expensive cultivars and crosses. I expect that they have HNF, but you could ask the hybridizer


As far as I know we are not able to use the daylily auction anymore because of the import ban on daylilies due to the Xylella fastidiosa issue. And it is definitely not possible anymore to import daylilies directly from the US if you are just a small collector - the regulations are very restrictive now and this will not change in future (I had just a call with the Austrian authority in charge with this topic). The owner of eurodaylily is the only one I know that was able import a few newer cultivars within the last years - but he's a professional.

I had to cancel my last US-order - phytosanitary certificate is useless now - the plants will be destroyed at the customs immediately. Sad
Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 2, 2021 1:06 AM CST
RobinSeeds said: I'm quite fond (understated to seem less insane) of the broken and striped cultivars, I'm really hoping to see some of those pics this summer!

If they are welcome here I will gladly post pictures of my striped seedlings this summer too - up to now the striped ones look more or less like the striped parent. But this striped children are the exceptions - many show other unexpectes colors or patterns. Two examples:

Open my Eyes x Undefinable
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Big Navy x Undefinable
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Name: Zoia Bologovsky
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Zoia
Jun 2, 2021 9:17 PM CST
I love the stripey daylilies. Really must get my hands on Explosion in the Paint Factory! That nursery is not that far from me and I might pay a visit in July or August, when I'm driving back from Fire Island, I go right through Connecticut where Rich Howard's farm is.

I planted Pink Stripes in March, I probably won't see anything this year.


Pink Stripes, Darrow 2006

I definitely want to experiment with this. I find the broken color fascinating.
I also had a first bloom on Mr Stipples yesterday, here's one with dots. I should see flowers on Dottie Do Little this year...maybe combine them?
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Greywoods Dottie Do Little, Wilkinson 2004
Name: Robin
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Jun 2, 2021 10:34 PM CST
@Zoia Rich Howard has done quite a bit of hybridizing with stripes lately. If you visit him, check out his seedlings too. Lovey dubby
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Name: Sue
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Nightlily
Jun 3, 2021 3:32 AM CST
Zoia said:I love the stripey daylilies. Really must get my hands on Explosion in the Paint Factory! That nursery is not that far from me and I might pay a visit in July or August, when I'm driving back from Fire Island, I go right through Connecticut where Rich Howard's farm is.

I planted Pink Stripes in March, I probably won't see anything this year.


Pink Stripes, Darrow 2006


You are lucky that you can visit Rich Howard's farm - I saw a one of his impressing seedling in an advertisement recently (looked like a cross of Undefinable and his EITPF).

I got my Pink Stripes last fall - 2 fans - I probably will see something this year. Fizziwig is now also big enough to flower Crossing Fingers!

And I'm waiting very hard on the first flower of Rich Howard and seedlings of this beautiful cultivar (I've got seeds two years ago - and both parents are striped).
Name: Wendy
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robinjoy
Jun 4, 2021 9:22 AM CST
Yankee Pinstripes is also a very pretty striped daylily - don't have it but have seen it blooming in friend's' garden.

They recently gave me Doctor Strangelove, which I I have been drooling over for some time.

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