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Jun 6, 2021 9:11 AM CST
Nebraska
Hi from Nebraska, Growing zone 5.
This is the 2nd and third year to have Stella in my garden. Right now, all my plants have tons of scapes, with lots of buds. On one plant in particular, I noticed today the buds are not maturing. Clusters of buds are simply dying. This plant is in a corner with plenty of space between it and the next Lilly so, it's definitely not over crowded and the plant looks otherwise healthy. Can anyone tell me what what is going on with this plant? Is it diseased? Should I dig it up and replace?

Any advice or resources you can point me to would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
~Deb
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Jun 6, 2021 12:35 PM CST
Name: Luis
Hurst, TX, U.S.A. (Zone 8a)
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I would check the soil moisture and check for thrips (they feed on buds).

https://hgic.clemson.edu/facts...
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Jun 6, 2021 2:03 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I see this quite often, it may be related to hot and dry weather (which could also favour thrips) but it just seems to be something daylilies do. I would be more concerned if any buds started becoming fat and swollen.
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Jun 9, 2021 4:07 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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@sooby,
What would be the concern if the buds started becoming fat and swollen?
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Jun 9, 2021 4:39 PM CST
Nebraska
Seedfork said:@sooby,
What would be the concern if the buds started becoming fat and swollen?

Yes, I was wondering about this as well.
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Jun 9, 2021 4:42 PM CST
Nebraska
luis_pr said:I would check the soil moisture and check for thrips.


Checked, no thripes.
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Jun 9, 2021 4:44 PM CST
Nebraska
So, looks like some are maturing and blooming and look just fine. I guess I won't worry about it unless all the others in my garden start doing this as well.

Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.
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Jun 9, 2021 5:29 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Seedfork said:@sooby,
What would be the concern if the buds started becoming fat and swollen?


Daylily gall midge:
https://daylilies.org/daylily-...
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Jun 9, 2021 5:42 PM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Thank goodness, that is one thing we don't have here yet!
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Jun 9, 2021 6:32 PM CST
Nebraska
Nope don't have issue Ewe!
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Jun 10, 2021 5:03 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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I have the same exact thing happening on one clump of my earliest bloomer, Butterscotch Ruffles.

The first bloom is today but I'm not sure how many more I'll get. Pretty much all my other daylilies are fine though. Not sure what caused it but the other clump looks perfect.


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Jun 10, 2021 5:18 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
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Ugh. I suppose it is just a matter of time before daylily gall midges spread throughout the U.S. Sad
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Jun 10, 2021 5:44 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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DeweyRooter said:Ugh. I suppose it is just a matter of time before daylily gall midges spread throughout the U.S. Sad


Unfortunately, yes, or at least in climates where it can survive and we know it can survive very cold ones, not so sure about hot places. It's not a strong flyer (or should that be flier?) so it will more quickly spread from place to place if people bringing in new daylilies don't follow the recommendations in the Daylily Dictionary article above.
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Jun 18, 2021 3:35 AM CST
Name: Alan
Merseyside
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Here in the UK the midge is everywhere, so I knew the answer before I opened the thread. If you open up a bud you will find lots of small maggots in a watery liquid. I have tried systemic insecticide, but it is only partly effective at best. Over the past couple of weeks I have removed large numbers of affected buds. I haven't tried insect repellants , but I am not very optimistic. Fortunately the later blooms will not be affected, and so I have avoided buying early varieties, but I am resigned to always having the problem.
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Jun 18, 2021 6:34 AM CST
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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Welcome! @dsteeleomaha I'm also a Nebraskan. Hurray!

We've had so much hot weather lately. So it is normal for daylily buds to shrivel up and burn. Watering your daylilies may help prevent shriveled and burnt buds.
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
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Jun 18, 2021 6:39 AM CST
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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sooby said:

Unfortunately, yes, or at least in climates where it can survive and we know it can survive very cold ones, not so sure about hot places. It's not a strong flyer (or should that be flier?) so it will more quickly spread from place to place if people bringing in new daylilies don't follow the recommendations in the Daylily Dictionary article above.



That just scares me.
I would just dead-head the affected blooms and burn them, so they don't spread.
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
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Jun 18, 2021 8:01 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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Well, mine are definitely not caused by the dreaded gall midge. Several of the buds have bloomed and are completely distorted but not watery or soft. The petals are really thick and stiff so the blooms don't open properly. Today one did open fairly normally. But almost every scape has had all the buds turn brown and shrivel up. It isn't lack of water because we've been having lots of rainfall. Plus Quit Fussing is right next to it and is blooming better than it ever has before.

Wish I knew what caused it. It looks like a few other daylilies may lose some buds too but not to the extent of Butterscotch Ruffles.
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Jun 18, 2021 8:10 AM CST
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Any type of chemicals been used in that area, that could have gotten on that one without getting on the others?
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Jun 18, 2021 8:41 AM CST
Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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No chemicals used in my garden and no way for anyone else to use a chemical and it not impact every other daylily nearby. My plants are only 5-6 inches apart at most.

I do have a seedling that is nearby that is opening a bud that looks very similar to the distorted blooms of BR. But that seedling shouldn't even have a bloom now since it has always bloomed mid-late. The fan is small and none of the larger fans have scapes yet. I figured it was some oddity (I've had this seedling since 2014 and it has never bloomed from fans this small or this early) so I shouldn't expect the flowers to be normal. Time will tell if the other buds are normal.
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Jun 18, 2021 2:51 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Elena, a couple of bugs that can potentially cause bud abortion are the tarnished plant bug and Lopidea confluenta. Both are pictured in the Daylily Dictionary.

In your picture there are scars on the buds that are usually attributed to thrips but it could be from something else.

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