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Elton, Pa
Bowtrak
Jun 12, 2021 11:18 AM CST
I am looking to propagate a rose cutting off of this Climbing Rose plant at my mothers house it was planted in 1985. Trying to learn the best way to do a cutting from it and where to take the cutting from. I have attached some pictures. My mother believes it's called a Tea Rose. Maybe you could help me identify it as well.

Thanks
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ElPolloDiablo
Jun 12, 2021 12:35 PM CST
Cutting are usually taken towards the end of the Summer, so there's still plenty of time left.

First thing to do is to determine if you are dealing with a grafted rose. Basically ask your mother if that rose ever grew light green suckers with slightly different foliage from the ground. If so the rose is grafted and to propagate it you will need suitable rootstock for it: unfortunately most grafted roses have too weak of a root system to survive for long and need to be grafted. It's actually harder to find the rootstock than doing the grafting itself, honest.
If not, it can be propagated by cuttings no problem.

Regarding identification... I think it's a bush rose that got out of control because it hasn't been properly pruned in a LONG time. If it's a hybrid tea it's on a very good quality rootstock (such as an old Meilland or Fortuniana) because otherwise the suckers would have long taken over and killed the scion.
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Name: Luis
Hurst, TX, U.S.A. (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas Salvias Roses Hibiscus Plumerias
luis_pr
Jun 12, 2021 12:39 PM CST
Does it have a tea scent? Tea roses tend to have tea scent and are usually -but not always- pastel colors, like white, pink, yellow or apricot... unless the graft failed, the tea rose scion died and now you have Dr. Huey rootstock growing.

How to propagate roses: https://www.wikihow.com/Propag...
Elton, Pa
Bowtrak
Jun 12, 2021 2:24 PM CST
My mother can't remember if it was grafted or not. How can I tell? Is there any way to determine if it was grafted?
Name: Luis
Hurst, TX, U.S.A. (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Region: Texas Salvias Roses Hibiscus Plumerias
luis_pr
Jun 12, 2021 4:07 PM CST
There is usually a knot-like structure where the graft is made. It is from this that the canes of the tea rose would originate. If the canes originate from below the graft, it is the rootstock what is now growing. Depending on how the rose was planted the graft can be seen above the ground in some places and below the ground in others. For example, with my mild winters, roses here in Texas are planted with the graft above the ground. In colder climates, they may be protected using the ground soil.
Santa Barbara, CA (Zone 9b)
SusaninSB
Jun 12, 2021 8:45 PM CST
Bowtrak, has the rose always bloomed with the same color blooms since she planted it in 1985? Does it bloom only in the spring, or does it repeat as the summer goes on?

You can propagate a grafted rose via cuttings, without the need for a rootstock.
Name: aka Annie
WA-rural 8a to (Zone 7b)
Sandsock
Jun 12, 2021 11:03 PM CST
Look at the florist rose thread...Beth has great directions and the stuff she suggests is on Amazon.
Elton, Pa
Bowtrak
Jun 14, 2021 3:58 PM CST
This is new growth out of the bottom of the bush.
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Elton, Pa
Bowtrak
Jun 14, 2021 4:00 PM CST
This is what the upper roses look like.
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Elton, Pa
Bowtrak
Jun 14, 2021 6:50 PM CST
should that new growth out of the bottom of the plant be removed or are they OK?
SW Ohio River Valley (Zone 6b)
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vaporvac
Jun 14, 2021 9:14 PM CST
I'm guessing the bottom rose is the true rose that was originally planted and the red one is the rootstock Dr. huey to which it was grafted.

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