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Mitchell, Nebraska
Liciamay
Jun 12, 2021 9:54 PM CST
This is probably a super newbie question so I apologize in advance. I've recently received an albo monstera top cut that is rooted but on the cut end they had sealed it with wax (which I've never dealt with before). Do I remove the wax before I plant? Do I leave that end out like I would a node or is it safe to bury? Please help
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Jun 12, 2021 10:11 PM CST
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Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 13, 2021 6:02 AM CST
Some sellers do this in an attempt to stop the cut end from rotting. The reason they do this is because most people who buy a cutting try and root it in water, which generally leads to problems. Like rot. I have never actually seen a cutting dipped in wax in the flesh, but then I have had my variegated Monsteras for many years and they came fully rooted as real plants in 3 gallon containers.

I think to pry the wax off might do more damage that leaving it, and making a new cut to remove it would create an open wound.

If you are planning to 'plant' it, either in damp moss or in substrate, you can bury it probably without any problem. It has sealed the cut end. Eventually, the cut it sealed will probably desiccate naturally and separate from the wax on its own. But leaving it out probably would not be damaging either.
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JBarstool
Jun 13, 2021 7:29 AM CST
Common in Europe to use wax to seal the 'growing' end of rooted cuttings. No, you don't remove the wax.
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Mitchell, Nebraska
Liciamay
Jun 13, 2021 11:29 PM CST
Thank you so much! I've been searching and searching for a straight response to this and honestly stumbled across this forum during my all reading for clarification. I believe it was even you (gina1960) answering another question to a year long journey of albo monsteras that made me want to create an account here in hopes of answers for my own.
You guys are awesome. Thank you so much

Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 14, 2021 5:22 AM CST
@Liciamay, you are welcome. Aroids in general are not a thing on this site. Not many people into them on a large scale. We have an aroid page, but it gets small traffic compared to stuff like Day lilies and such. But we plug along. The alternative is Facebook, which can be a hugely toxic environment sometimes even for something as innocuous as plants. Too much drama.
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Mitchell, Nebraska
Liciamay
Jun 15, 2021 9:52 AM CST
@Gina1960 do you have a link to the other page you had mentioned? Any and all informative things I can read I see as beneficial :)
I am also on Facebook and I couldn't agree more with your view, there's a lot of the drama or just plain rude remarks instead of helpful information that is shared.

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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 11:42 AM CST
Its on this site. Philodendrons and what not. Further down from this page. There are not many on it sadly
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purpleinopp
Jun 15, 2021 11:47 AM CST
Are you referring to this? https://garden.org/forums/view...
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Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 1:41 PM CST
yes. Our poor sad almost unpopulated aroid forum. We value every contributor we have though!
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 1:51 PM CST
I actually have a theory about why we don;t have a ton of members on our aroid page. I think its because this site would not tolerate all the BS, drama, bullying, profanity etc that the pages like FB do. And because there is no real ability to have anything like a Buy-Sell-Trade venue. At the moment, everything AROID is centered around the ability to make a buck. Not on actually collecting and growing plants. And the people who thrive on all the stuff that transpires elsewhere would have no real audience here to try and impress. I also think that the age here may be slightly higher than on other venues, and a lot of the newer people in the aroid hobby think that they are the supreme experts on every single plant that exists, after collecting for maybe a year? This is just too nice a place. They prefer other venues where they can act differently. Just my opinion.
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purpleinopp
Jun 15, 2021 1:55 PM CST
I don't know. Aroids to me are just a very few of many houseplants. The houseplant forum is so slow, I don't see the need to be more specific.
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plantladylin
Jun 15, 2021 2:12 PM CST
garden.org does offer a Buy-Sell-Trade Venue where members can buy, sell, or trade plants of any type. Those forums can be assessed here:

Plant and Seed Trading Forum: https://garden.org/forums/view...
Classified And Group Buys Forum: https://garden.org/forums/view...

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Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 2:25 PM CST
Tiffany that is not how people who collect aroids view their plants. They don;t collect anything else. They are hyper focused on every new aroid they see. If it variegated, or 'rare', so much the better. They are paying thousands of dollars sometimes for a single, small, plant. Its like the Day Lily people here...they collect DAY LILIES. They may have some other plants, but, they are more 'unimportant'. The aroid people are building greenhouse INSIDE their houses and apartments JUST to grow Anthuriums and Philodendrons and other aroids. The build living walls and put as many rare species as they can, on it. They build floor to ceiling walk in terrariums, JUST for aroids.

And the but sell and trade page here is NOTHING like it is there. They are aroid specific, and tend to run toward what are called 'purges', where a single seller will list 10-20+ plants, one at a time, with a price, and people fight over them. Or, they have auctions. like on eBay, just for aroids. Its not uncommon for a starting bid on something to be $1000 and still have a RESERVE.

The difference between here, and there, is stunningly different
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plantladylin
Jun 15, 2021 2:32 PM CST
I'm a plant enthusiast but not a "collector" and it truly amazed me when y'all reported the $$$$$$$ prices that some were paying for certain Aroids ... Blinking it made my eyes bug out! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 2:40 PM CST
A variegated Rhaphidophora tetrasperma sold recently in New Zealand at auction for over $17,000.

Unless you go over and witness it for yourself, you might not understand how it differs from our Classified and Trade pages. Its all in real time. People are hunched over their computers, trying to be the first to comment "SOLD" on a plant that gets posted. The seller will go down a line of plants, post a photo and price, and whoever says SOLD first gets the privilege of vastly overpaying for that plant.

Or they will sell via something called DEAL OR NO DEAL where its the same sort of thing, a seller posts a photo of a plant, someone offers them an amount of money or a trade, and its either accepted, or no deal.

There are also pages for both buyers and sellers to post reviews about transactions, and some of the posts there are just off the wall. People demanding a refund (because they got buyers remorse) if a plant comes in the mail with a creased leaf. People demanding the seller refund them because the POST OFFICE lost their plant. Most sellers have a no refund policy for any malfeasance the post office commits.

But even the regular pages can sometimes deteriorate into squabbling between the children.
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Jun 15, 2021 2:46 PM CST
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purpleinopp
Jun 15, 2021 7:12 PM CST
Madness! I would say that I collect, but it's limited to a few plants that I purchase at stores per year, and a few trades of cuttings once in a while. My limit for a potted plant is about $15. I'm glad others are able to get involved more seriously if interested.
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Name: Gina
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Gina1960
Jun 15, 2021 8:00 PM CST
I have never paid over $100 for anything. And only paid that I think once. Most of my stuff comes from trades. And when I do shell out some $$, its because I sold enough Anthurium seeds to make the $$ for it
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