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Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)       Totally_Amazing Jul 5, 2021 10:10 PM CST |
One of my tb seedlings has decided to produce a bloom stalk in the middle of winter. The spot where it is planted does not get any sun at all until the end of July. The buds have been growing at a slow rate and I am wondering if they will bloom OK. It does not snow here and our temperature does not reach freezing although it can get close to it.  Top bud (I think the flower is the tiny bit poking out at the top)  Lower bud  Has anybody had blooms on a tb in a spot that gets no sun? My plan so far has been to check it each day and put it in a vase in the sun if it stops growing. I have also considered cutting off the top half of the stem as it may help the buds left in the ground as well as giving some sunlight to those in the vase. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. It is the first bloom ever from this cross so I am keen to see it. |
Name: Evelyn Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)           evelyninthegarden Jul 5, 2021 10:17 PM CST |
Robin ~ What a dilemma!   Let us know what happens... "Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson |
Name: Elaine Sarasota, Fl The one constant in life is change            dyzzypyxxy Jul 5, 2021 10:20 PM CST |
| Always good to wait and see, in my opinion. It's getting enough light to put up a bloom stalk so, it should open and let you see the flower. Keep us posted. Elaine "Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill |
 JosephGhio Jul 5, 2021 10:42 PM CST |
| It will bloom; The color might be a bit less intense. Mine always bloom regardless of where they are planted. |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b) Totally_Amazing Jul 5, 2021 11:04 PM CST |
 Joe  . I should also thank you for the pod parent. The seedling is Impulsive x Toucan Tango. |
Name: Joshua Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b) Köppen Climate Zone Cfb       |
| I'd wait it out and see, Robin. The 'Crimson King' NOID here is still slowly producing blooms, even though it's getting chilly at night. Plant Authorities: Catalogue of Life (Species) --- International Cultivar Registration Authorities (Cultivars) --- RHS Orchid Register --- RHS Lilium Register My Notes: Orchid Genera HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Traits HTML PDF --- Lilium Species Crosses HTML PDF Excel --- Lilium Species Diagram The current profile image is that of Iris 'Volcanic Glow'. |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)    crowrita1 Jul 8, 2021 7:28 AM CST |
I've found that , of course, some varieties/ classes do "better, or worse" than others, some will grow (slowly), and bloom (sparsely) in full shade. I have an area under some cedar trees....almost impossible to mow without scratching my bald head on the branches...that only gets "winter time" sun. By early March...the tree "bases" are in full shade, and stay that way, until mid September. I have planted "waifs and strays" of daylilies, and irises there....just to "keep the weeds down". The few buds the irises get...maybe one, or two stalks per clump...always bloom, although, flower size is smaller(maybe that's more due to soil chemistry, than shade  .)I will say that the older varieties ....historics...and the median classes...do the best there. |
Name: Jan Wax Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a) I'm a semi-retired studio potter.         janwax Jul 8, 2021 12:01 PM CST |
Totally_Amazing said: That's an interesting cross, Robin. We'll look forward to seeing the result ! Life is a Gift ! |
Name: Evelyn Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a) evelyninthegarden Jul 8, 2021 3:10 PM CST |
janwax said:That's an interesting cross, Robin. We'll look forward to seeing the result !   "Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b) Totally_Amazing Jul 9, 2021 3:34 AM CST |
| Arlyn - It sounds like you need to wear a hat when mowing. Thanks for the information Arlyn and Joshua. My seedling is growing very slowly with the flower pushing out of the spathe about 1mm a day. I think the low temperatures are to blame. Last night it was 0.6 degrees Celsius. Jan and Evelyn. Both Toucan Tango and Impulsive have a splash of purple on the falls and I thought it would be interesting to combine them. I also wanted to created something yellow or orange for a change.x |
Los Altos, CA (Zone 9b)  AndreaD Jul 9, 2021 9:19 PM CST |
| It seems to me that if the iris was happy enough to put up a bloom stalk with a bud, it will bloom even if it is in the shade. The only times when my iris buds don't open is when it is too hot and dry and they get dried out. (In California, a not uncommon occurrence.) |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :)     SonoveShakespeare Jul 10, 2021 12:46 AM CST |
| Deleted Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Ian McBeth Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b) Try Naturalizing perennials! :) SonoveShakespeare Jul 10, 2021 12:55 AM CST |
AndreaD said:It seems to me that if the iris was happy enough to put up a bloom stalk with a bud, it will bloom even if it is in the shade. It's always good to experiment with plants. Not only people give others signs, but plants do too. |
Name: Arlyn Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a) crowrita1 Jul 10, 2021 10:10 AM CST |
| "Hilarious! Arlyn - It sounds like you need to wear a hat when mowing." The first branch takes the hat off, the second branch takes the skin |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b) Totally_Amazing Jul 10, 2021 5:24 PM CST |
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Name: Evelyn Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a) evelyninthegarden Jul 10, 2021 10:40 PM CST |
crowrita1 said:"Hilarious! Arlyn - It sounds like you need to wear a hat when mowing." OUCH!   "Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b) Totally_Amazing Jul 11, 2021 6:35 PM CST |
I noticed one of my buds just starting to turn brown so I decided to cut it off and dissect it.   Falls  Standards  I was hoping for something more interesting than a purple self. The shade is slowly shifting and the seedling is just starting to get some sunshine for a couple of minutes a day.  |
Name: Robin Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b) Totally_Amazing Jul 27, 2021 10:42 PM CST |
My Impulsive x Toucan Tango seedling finally bloomed today and it is not just a purple self . It has 4 falls and 3 standards so the shape looks odd on some angles   The white darts stand out from a distance  |
Name: Jan Wax Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a) I'm a semi-retired studio potter. janwax Jul 28, 2021 1:01 AM CST |
| Robin! Life is a Gift ! |
Name: Lilli Lundby, Denmark, EU        IrisLilli Jul 28, 2021 3:07 AM CST |
| Love the colours! Not least that white dart. Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice! |
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