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Jul 6, 2021 11:27 AM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Noticed this in my garden on a thistle leaf, any idea what it could be? Thx.
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Jul 6, 2021 11:30 AM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
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RJ, I've seen this on the poison ivy in my back yard. I think its some kind of disease, Maybe rust? The inside of the spots on the poison ivy are reddish in color.
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Jul 6, 2021 11:48 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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Are the spots raised? My first thought was some type of leaf gall. Shrug!
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Jul 6, 2021 11:54 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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I agree! Some type of insect.
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Jul 6, 2021 11:54 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Jul 6, 2021 11:56 AM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Yes, bumps are raised
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Jul 6, 2021 12:08 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
Arkansas (Zone 7b)
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Oh, ok. I see the connection! On mine I was going by the color. And I really don't care because it's on my poison Ivy, which by the way has all been hacked down. I will spray when it starts growing again.
Good diagnosis, Lin and Bill. Thumbs up
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Jul 6, 2021 12:12 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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plantladylin said:Photos for comparison: https://www.researchgate.net/f...


Maybe good guys!
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Jul 6, 2021 12:16 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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All the credit is Lin's.
I just carry the golf bag. All of the fabulous shots are hers!!! Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 6, 2021 12:19 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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Just carry the golf bag! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 6, 2021 12:57 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing The only think I'd know to do with a golf club would be to use it for bashing these big Lubber Grasshoppers!
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Jul 6, 2021 1:10 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Ah, it doesn't matter. I just try to interject a little humor whenever I can!
See, it is getting some chuckles!!
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Jul 6, 2021 1:57 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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Lin,
You got some kudos from one of our University Entomologists!

Very good detective work; I have not seen this before in the field.
However, I know Hesler's work, in SD is very good; and his publication here is quite clear, and timely; and indicates that the gall midge could be widely distributed in MN, as well as Dakotas.
It's something I will start looking for too,
Bill
and yes, should be a beneficial spp.; will be interesting to see the host range (# of thistle spp.) it attacks,
(aka for biological control of thistle)
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Jul 6, 2021 2:14 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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Lin, isn't using a golf club on those lubbers a little bit of overkill? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I just snip them in half with my sharpest garden shears. Very amusing to see the front half try to hop away. Sometimes the back half tries to do that, too. Am I cruel, or what? Hilarious!
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Jul 6, 2021 2:28 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Lin has good hand to eye coordination!! She is knocking those suckers 30 yards now with a sand wedge! Just wait until she tees one up and uses a driver. A neighbor 75 yards away will be sitting there and plop, 1/2 a lubber lands in his iced tea!!!🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗FORE!!!
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Jul 6, 2021 2:30 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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I would like to see that!!! Would make an awesome video. You tube star is born.! I tip my hat to you.
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Jul 6, 2021 5:04 PM CST
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I remember those huge things when I toured gardens in Florida but they were black, eeewww!
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Jul 6, 2021 5:41 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Calif_Sue said:I remember those huge things when I toured gardens in Florida but they were black, eeewww!

I've been in Florida for 54 years and thankfully I've only seen these big grasshoppers 3 times in all those years and luckily it's been only one or two but in some parts of the Southeastern U.S. numbers are said to be really high at times. I'd never go outside if we had to deal with lots of those critters! I've never seen the black ones, only the bright yellow and yellowish-orange; their coloration is variable and supposedly the predominately black ones are found more in the northern part of the state.
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Jul 6, 2021 8:35 PM CST
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I just remembered that I photographed one on a daylily when I toured the hybridizers garden.
The stuff nightmares are made of!

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Jul 6, 2021 11:00 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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Stuff of nightmares!
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