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Jul 8, 2021 9:03 AM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
I am pondering something like aluminum ductwork to shield the first 6' of my gladiolus. That would protect them from weed eaters and the baby shoots from rabbits (maybe).

Is this a bad idea if I make certain they each get the water and nutrients they need?

Thanks
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Jul 8, 2021 9:09 AM CST
Name: Arlene
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A photo of the area would help us to help you.
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Jul 8, 2021 1:10 PM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
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I don't know if this will help you. I had this plan for many areas in my lawn but this is the main one.
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Jul 8, 2021 1:34 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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Yours are all erect, not bending over. That's good. Here rabbits do not go for the glad's at all. The weed eater is more of a problem. Is there any chance that some of the glad's could be moved so they'd be closer together and less likely to be harmed by the trimmer?
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Jul 8, 2021 1:49 PM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
I am a loving gardener and not the lawnkeeper. The hired lawncare doesn't care. I am focusing on a way to protect them. I really want to know about my idea of duct work. If it is a bad idea I can come up with another.
Thank you anyway.
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Jul 8, 2021 2:14 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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I need a photo of the ductwork.

This is what I picture when I think of ductwork. You may have something different in mind.
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Jul 8, 2021 3:42 PM CST
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Hmmm, not my idea of a garden, could look more like a science experiment or modern metal art project. nodding
What about a small/short temporary fence?
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Jul 8, 2021 4:13 PM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
Thank you for your thoughts. This was a tree, then that was torn down and the hole filled with rocky dirt - oh, and some chunks of broken China and glass. But I am intent on making it a garden. So sorry if I can't have the landlord dig up his yard for my glads.

I am having fun and my hibiscus this morning made me happy. Guess I will just have to "experiment" a while longer.

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Jul 8, 2021 6:51 PM CST
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The hibiscus is beautiful!

Would the landlord allow you to clean the grass and weeds out of the area and then cover it with some mulch? Then there would be no need for the weedwhacking Smiling
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Jul 8, 2021 7:32 PM CST
Name: Zoë
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Louhardt, the answer is yes, aluminum ductwork would protect them and shouldn't negatively affect their growth. Another idea that might be a little less industrial looking: clear plastic water or drink bottles with top and bottom cut off, also maybe the coated cardboard (?) cartons that refrigerated juice and almond milk come in.
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Jul 8, 2021 8:05 PM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
Good ideas! They will get me thinking. And it probably would not be limited to glads. I keep trying to get the crabgrass off the mound but it keeps finding its way back. I don't start early enough in the spring. The mulch would be the next plan What I really hate is that they dumped the dirt, covered it with small pebbles, covered that with weed barrier plastic but that was several years ago so everywhere I try to dig I end up having to tear out plastic that isn't really stopping weeds anymore; just my spade.

But it has been a labor of love. I just need to work earlier in the morning and earlier in the spring.

I was thinking of round tubing like this but then I still would have to find someone to cut it crosswise. The 2-liter pop bottles sound like a good idea.


Thanks.
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Jul 8, 2021 8:26 PM CST
Name: Arlene
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I'd think the tube would hold the heat, something you don't want.
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Jul 8, 2021 8:29 PM CST
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Maybe the small tomato cages would work 33 inch tomato cages are usually under $2 at most big box stores. The only thing cheaper would be Zoe's idea of recyling containers.

I was typing this as Pirl replied I agree.....
the duct work with the sun may fry your plants or at least heat the ground around the roots!

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Jul 8, 2021 8:40 PM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
Thanks! Too late this year anyway so I will put all of these in storage till winter and then work on my pre-emergent plan for crabgass and other nonsence.
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Jul 8, 2021 9:33 PM CST
Name: Zoë
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Sounds like you've got several challenges!
Giving this more thought, I'm wondering if plastic might heat up, too. Trying to think of something rigid and porous... some sort of screen? Fencing like chicken wire perhaps?
Perhaps for next year, Pirl's suggestion to group the glads would make it easier to enclose them.
Whatever you decide, good luck with your garden Thumbs up
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Jul 8, 2021 11:20 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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A type of temporary fencing can be made with bamboo stakes and brown twine. At least that should protect them from the weed whacker. Then next year you can come up with a more permanent solution.
BTW, have you talked to the landlord about your gardening endeavors?ive lived in rental houses for over 20 years, and my experience has been that landlords usually don't mind any garden efforts you make, short of digging up trees! Any improvements you make enhance the property value.
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Jul 9, 2021 8:07 AM CST
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I think hardware mesh would work, but might be costly.
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Jul 9, 2021 9:14 AM CST
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I buy this and use wire cutters on the bottom to remove crosswire so I have something to stick in ground.

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Jul 9, 2021 9:26 AM CST
Name: Pat
Springfield, MO
That looks good, jvdubb! I will have to look for some at the end of the season.

And I chuckled at the above "science experiment" thought. I think actually this is possible the way the Lord created it and it wasn't an experiment. But at that point "perfect" was HIS concept, not ours.

Thanks to all.
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Jul 10, 2021 1:20 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Powell, OH (Zone 5b)
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I, too, have used hardware cloth (metal fencing with half-inch square holes) to protect plants, typically smaller ones that I don't want the landscapers to walk on or pull up. I got tired of clipping the crosswire from the bottom since it's a tedious job and hard on the hands. I bend the wire into cylinders, fasten the ends together and then use landscape pins to hold the rounded screens in place. Works great, especially to keep bunnies and chipmunks from nibbling on new growth. The cylinders allow both air and water to pass through. You can make the cylinders any height so this is a very flexible solution to protecting plants and small trees.
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