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Jul 9, 2021 9:34 AM CST

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I am planting jackfruit and lychee seeds in containers in my garden, but every other night birds dig them up. In addition, they have also pooped on my plants and eaten some of my other plants too. They have been doing this since the beginning of summer. I live in a rental house, so I can't install any fences or anything. Please help me get rid of these nasty pests in my garden!
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Jul 9, 2021 9:38 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Birds generally do not fly at night.
How about some type of mouse, rat, rabbit or hare?
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Jul 9, 2021 9:41 AM CST

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Couldn't be. The gate is locked. In addition, I have seen birds wandering around my garden in the early morning hours.
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Jul 9, 2021 9:41 AM CST

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And all the rabbits I have seen prefer grass.
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Jul 9, 2021 9:47 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
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I wouldn't think birds would be the culprits at night, either (unless by 'night' you actually mean 'evening').

You could cover your plants with some lightweight floating row cover to protect them (something like this: https://www.gardeners.com/buy/... )

Or maybe something like hardware cloth or window screen.
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Jul 9, 2021 9:53 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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What gate? You have a gate that blocks all climbing or jumping critters?
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Jul 9, 2021 9:55 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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You have some really snooty rabbits. Here they probably eat several hundred weeds and wildflowers and that does not include a great deal of tasty fruits and vegetables.
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Jul 9, 2021 9:56 AM CST

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I've got a gate to my backyard that I have locked and there is no way a rabbit or a hare could come in. And mice are almost nonexistent where I live. I think the destruction happens in the early morning hours.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:00 AM CST

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I also find a lot of birds in my yard every day.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:01 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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In your hot climate, I would imagine with 100-115 degree high temperatures most things feed during the night time. I say that because in broad daylight, you would have seen them.
Just because you do not see them, does not really mean that they don't raid the garden.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:07 AM CST

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Hmm... rats are possible, but wouldn't they try to come inside?
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Jul 9, 2021 10:07 AM CST

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And I did see a bird pooping on my young citrus a month ago, in the middle of the day.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:13 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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If you are certain the plants are being eaten at night, it's likely a rodent of some type; a couple of possibilities:

The Arizona Cotton Rat diet consists of leaves, seeds, grains, and nuts and fruit : https://animaldiversity.org/ac...

The Arizona Cotton Mouse diet also consists of leaves seed, grains and nuts: https://animaldiversity.org/ac...

Check out this article Gardening in Tucson, Phoenix: https://gardenoracle.com/tips-...
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Jul 9, 2021 10:14 AM CST
Name: Ian McBeth
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The only birds that I know of are out at night are owls. And I don't think owls could be eating those.

The "birds" you claim see flying in the air at night could possibly or actually be bats.

EDIT: There are fruit bats in Arizona called Marianas. They're mostly out during the day, but a few occasionally are seen flying around at night. So stay on the look out the Marianas might eat your jackfruit.
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:17 AM CST

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I never actually saw a bird or a rat in the night. But anyways, how do I get rid of these pests? My garden is not a restaurant!
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Jul 9, 2021 10:41 AM CST
Name: Kurt
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squirrels love to dig in my containers whenever the can. usually in the early morning before I get out there.
I think they to bury their nuts in the soft soil rather than the hard ground. It really got aggravating and yes birds poop on them too.

only solution I have come up with is to get a bag of small to medium size rocks from home depot or lowe's and cover all exposed dirt.

like these to help deter squirrels from digging.

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Jul 9, 2021 10:42 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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I don't think that you will be able to. You can try various sprays and things like dried blood or other rodent deterrents. Numerous people report great success with hot red pepper flakes.

But you have to look at it from their point of view to a certain extent. You are providing them with a sweet and delicious salad bar. AND their hungry. Can you keep starving critters away from an easy meal? I will not be easy.
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Jul 9, 2021 10:48 AM CST
Name: Zoë
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Many birds that are a ground-feeders will dig in pots and often pull out seedlings, and they'll do it early morning and even in dusk. I have thrashers that forage when it's almost dark after most birds have gone to bed.

Follow Weedwacker's advice above, cover your pots with screen or row cover fabric.

Bird poop won't hurt your plants. Thumbs up
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Jul 9, 2021 10:53 AM CST

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Ok thank you all. I will get some rocks. Thx Smiling
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Jul 9, 2021 11:15 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Sure thing. Thumbs up
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