Daylilies forum→Bought this at BJ's Wholesale Club but no ID

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pasdejus
Jul 9, 2021 10:54 AM CST
I bought this on sale at BJ's Wholesale Club, but none had cultivar identification. I thought I would just call the supplier on the sticker, but I can't find information on them either. The plant is about 30" tall. I would say the colors are a very pale yellow and mauve. Does anyone know what these are?
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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sooby
Jul 9, 2021 11:13 AM CST
It's very pretty, it would be a shame not to know what it is. Have you tried scanning the bar code?

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pasdejus
Jul 9, 2021 11:32 AM CST
I just typed the barcode into Google, but nothing. Is there another place? I also contacted BJ's Warehouse Club customer care for any information.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jul 9, 2021 1:52 PM CST
There are barcode scanner apps but apparently they can be risky from a security point of view. I tried with the iPad QR code scanner but it doesn't appear to do barcodes as well. Hopefully BJ's will be able to help. At least there is a snail mail address on the pot to try if they can't.

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pasdejus
Jul 18, 2021 9:48 AM CST
No luck so far. I reached out to BJ's customer services, and BJ's suggested I contact gardenia.org, which I did but got no response. I also found a job posting for this place on the label that suggested it was a satellite greenhouse for a business in NJ, so I contacted them as well with no response. I tracked down a snail mail street address based on the label and sent an actual letter. Hopefully they will respond, but nothing yet. I thought looked like Eye on America, but those descriptions include a dark red eye, and this is definitely pink/mauve. I even tried Google image search, but that only told me it was a daylily. Anyone have ideas or one that looks similar?
Name: Orion
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plasko20
Jul 18, 2021 10:20 AM CST
I went through a similar experience with a gorgeous azalea from Home Depot.
Mainly because I wanted to know what zone it was approved for and how big it would get.
But I hit similar roadblocks to you. Supplier did not respond. Closest I got was a Glassdoors employee review of the plant company.
I think generic garden suppliers may not even know what they are growing.
That is why I passed on some nice unlabelled daylilies (dark and tall) from Home Depot a few weeks ago.
Seems all-too-common for big-box stores. But then, not everything can be a 'pedigree plant'.
Mongrels (NOIDS) can be pretty, too.
The azalea died last winter, so I got my answer that it is not good for my zone.
Gardening: So exciting I wet my plants!
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Name: Jerry
New Jersey (Zone 6a)
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Jpari
Jul 18, 2021 11:02 AM CST
I am sorry to hear that your search for identification of this plant is coming up blank. When a plant is not labeled it is so difficult to put a name to the cultivar and even if it were to resemble a named variety there is no certainty that the NOID is in fact the cultivar that it resembles. As to this plant, it resembles my cultivar 'Sir Francis Drake'.


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Again, your plant resembles 'Sir Francis Drake', but, there is no certainty that it actually is. This is the problem in identifying NOIDS. I think on the whole unnamed plants at the big box stores are great for people who just want some pretty flowers in there landscape and really don't care what the names are. If you are a serious hobbyist, in the future you may consider buying from a reputable nursery who sells identified plants with name tags accompanying the plants.





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Name: Nancy
Downers Grove, IL (Zone 5b)
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nancyindg
Jul 18, 2021 12:06 PM CST
[quote="Jpari"]I am sorry to hear that your search for identification of this plant is coming up blank. When a plant is not labeled it is so difficult to put a name to the cultivar and even if it were to resemble a named variety there is no certainty that the NOID is in fact the cultivar that it resembles. As to this plant, it resembles my cultivar 'Sir Francis Drake'.

Jpari,
Do you recall where you got your Sir Francis Drake? It certainly does look exactly like the No Id. If only you got yours at BJ's!

I follow many FaceBook Daylily groups but this past week I dropped out of one after only a couple of days. It's a group that's dedicated to helping people identify their No I'ds and I just found it an exercise in frustration. It's impossible to definitively name a plant so it's just about useless to try. I have enough plants in my own garden that are driving me nuts so I don't need to expose myself to the naming woes of other folks. But most importantly, I very much enjoy looking at photos of daylilies, often with the knowledge that a particularly pleasing one might be available for sale and in my price range. If I can only drool over a No Id then I it's better for me to not even look.


Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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sooby
Jul 18, 2021 12:22 PM CST
'Sir Francis Drake' (I actually had a duck called that once Hilarious! ) and the NOID are very close, but the NOID looks more creamy than yellow, and has a watermark which the SFD doesn't. I wonder if they are related though.
Name: Jerry
New Jersey (Zone 6a)
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Jpari
Jul 18, 2021 2:24 PM CST
nancyindg said:[quote="Jpari"]I am sorry to hear that your search for identification of this plant is coming up blank. When a plant is not labeled it is so difficult to put a name to the cultivar and even if it were to resemble a named variety there is no certainty that the NOID is in fact the cultivar that it resembles. As to this plant, it resembles my cultivar 'Sir Francis Drake'.

Jpari,
Do you recall where you got your Sir Francis Drake? It certainly does look exactly like the No Id. If only you got yours at BJ's!

Yes, I do remember. I purchased 'Sir Francis Drake' from Schreiner's Irises.





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pasdejus
Jul 19, 2021 5:38 PM CST
Thanks. I know I can't be sure based on visual ID alone, and I almost didn't buy it because I knew not knowing would drive me nuts! I seriously have plant labels in my garden. I thought maybe someone on here knew some "inside info" or at least had a guess. I was thinking maybe something close to Steve Trimmer but I'm not sure the exact colors of that either. The Sir Francis Drake looks very close, too. I may have to just label this unknown #2. (#1 was a gift). I appreciate all the suggestions!
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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sooby
Jul 19, 2021 5:56 PM CST
I have 'Steve Trimmer' and the coloured eyezone doesn't look as big as your lovely NOID.

'Steve Trimmer'
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pasdejus
Jul 19, 2021 6:00 PM CST
sooby said:I have 'Steve Trimmer' and the coloured eyezone doesn't look as big as your lovely NOID.

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Thanks! Yes, I would agree the eye zone on my NOID is larger, even though the colors do look similar.
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Jul 19, 2021 7:08 PM CST
I was looking at the photos of "Sir Francis Drake" and the photo by Johanvanheusden has a much larger eye zone than the one posted by Calif_Sue. Just shows how hard it is to try and identify plants just by photos. We all like to think we know the names of our plants but looking at the confusion with BONANZA
even if the plants come with names they might not always be correct. I have had a bunch of NOIDs over the years and have removed all but a few, some are just great plants even if we are not sure of the names.

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