Dennis616 said:Would a tet kid from Europa be exciting or interesting to people? A Europa kid would be fairly rare, though I do see 11 officially registered kids. Would it have to be a particularly unique bloom to generate interest, or would its closeness to the species alone make it of interest? Europa is one incredibly tough plant so it would seem possible if not likely that its kids could also be exceptionally tough. Perhaps that would generate interest.
I know I would feel some excitement about getting some viable seeds, just curious what the general interest in a tet Europa kid might be. Any thoughts?
There are some diploid H. fulva clones available
Gil Stelter from Gryphon Garden works on H. fulva hybrids and has a great knowledge about the hole issue (he identified one of my 'fulvous plants' as Margaret Perry); he did what you want to do several times successfully - maybe he can help you with his experience?
Thanks for this info!
I have seen what Stelter has been doing, and maybe he's on to something and generating a lot of interest. This really is just a fun "side project" for me-- and am just curious if I was successful that maybe the resulting kids would generate interest and I should make it a focus
Every year lots of pods start but quickly abort. Every year a couple hang on longer, teasing me, but eventually abort....
My experience in crossing with species is: most of the seedlings are disappointing - if there is something special still hidden in their genetics you need a lot of patience to bring it out.
Growing like weed is not really a feature for a garden plant - making runners and spreading through beds like H. fulva Europa isn't either.
That is what I suspected might be the case. Unless a Europa seedling was a particularly great or intriguing bloom I almost certainly wouldn't pursure working with it...
SunriseSide said:I've got three small [so far] pods on Europa × Always Afternoon this year. We'll see what happens.🧐
So what was the outcome? Enquiring minds want to know!
Sscape said:Spreading by runners and growing like mad is not always a bad thing. There are situations where naturalizing a patch of ground with a patch of uniform color is GOOD! I.E.--the many daylily islands in the areas between North bound/South bound Interstate highway lanes here in NC would benefit from low maintenance, low cost, high visual value daylilies.