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Jul 30, 2021 1:00 PM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
I am a brand new Plumeria enthusiast. Started hobby on April 30, 2021. Interested in learning from members as to what types of ground cover are useful and or colorful. I have 14 trees in the ground and also 15 or so cuttings or seedlings in pots in Cape Coral Florida. One is last year cutting now 6 feet tall and all the rest are rooted cuttings doing real well in the ground. Any suggestions on ground cover for immediate base of the trees would be appreciated. I will be leaving all trees in the ground over the winter. Thank you.
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Jul 30, 2021 5:16 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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I use succulents and sedum on mine. Or portulaca / moss roses. You want a ground cover that will not interfere with the roots.
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Jul 30, 2021 6:00 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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By the way Welcome! @PlumeriaBob9
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Jul 31, 2021 5:37 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
Thanks Gigi. Your answer on my ground cover question was very helpful and on target. I just researched your recommendations and will probably go with Dragon's Blood sedum. Shallow rooted like you stated. (Just so happens that my wife is a children's book author. "Christopher Dragon Meets The New World", "Christopher Dragon Goes Shopping With Friends" and " Christopher Dragon Goes To The Beach". All with dozens of 5 star reviews and directed at 4 to 8 year old. Thanks again for your advice. I plan to read many of your past posts to advance my knowledge. Thank You!
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Jul 31, 2021 12:51 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Yes good choice on the Dragon's Blood sedum.

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Oh wow, perfect for your wife's future story book. My daughter is older but I would recommend the books to my other friends who have that age group kids. Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Jul 31, 2021 1:54 PM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
Thanks for your response on my choice of ground cover. Also, thanks for comment on Mary's books. I'm a medical courier part time in retirement and many of my contacts have purchased all three books as a gift to the "New Mother To Be" at their Baby Showers. The Mom's to be actually read the books (repeatedly) Thank You! while the fetus is still developing in the womb! The rhyme is smooth and not awkward at all from a wonderful 35 year many award winning teacher ! ! !
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Jul 31, 2021 3:18 PM CST
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Jul 31, 2021 3:35 PM CST
Name: Jason
Houston, Tx.
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That is rust. You are going to have to remove all infected leaves, bag them, and dispose of them. Look into a horticultural soap or anti fungal spray. Spray in the early morning hours as not to sunburn the leaves. Pretty simple fix as long as you catch it early.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
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Jul 31, 2021 6:05 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Lovey dubby Amazing career of your wife, she is helping the children of the future... and what a great accomplishment being an accomplished author of children's books! I tip my hat to you. She has a great legacy for the future generation!

My daughter and I love to read! And when I retire all I want to do is garden, read and travel (and vice versa).

Yes, our daily rain contributes to the rust! I know a Thai hybridizer is trying to develop plumerias that are not susceptible to rust. Per my years of growing plumerias, the rust has not affected the quality of the blooms of my plumerias. But since I don't like the look of the plumerias, I am
Quick to give my plumerias a haircut when I see the rust or see yellow leaves. Especially when I have plumeria buds. I don't spray anything but my plumerias get a haircut when buds are starting out so I can enjoy the blooms (for picture taking) without any unsightly rust on the leaves.

And good air circulation in between plumerias helps prevent the spread of rust.
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Aug 1, 2021 5:57 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
Thanks to Jason and Gigi for the suggestions and info! I have discarded in a sealed bag some 20 very large and very infested leaves. The leaves are 15" x 5.5". Used a fungicide/insecticide spray on remaining small infestation that covers rust eradication. I am wondering if rust can actually kill the tree???? Does the rust just stop photosynthesis by sealing off the stomata so the leaf cannot breathe CO2 or does the leaf just dry out and drop????
Thank You!
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Aug 1, 2021 9:09 AM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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My understanding of the rust is it will not kill the plumeria trees but it could defoliate the entire tree. I don't wait for it to happen. For a tree that is taller than my house, I have no choice but to wait till the leaves fall on the ground when it's dormant before collecting and tossing them all away. (Hubby rolls his eyes when I ask him to remove leaves with rust! Rolling on the floor laughing )

If you leave the leaves with rust, they just turn brown and fall off but then spreading rust spores to your other plumeria trees.
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Aug 1, 2021 11:07 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
Thanks for the answer on lethality of rust on plumeria. "Deadra" was a stick left on my doorstep last year by my neighbor Tim last year. I had NO clue what it was. He said it grows pretty flowers -- just stick it in the ground and it will grow.

So it did grow to 2 feet and almost bloomed in 2020. Blossoms did not open but has grown to 6 feet tall with 4 branches at bloom attempt site. Anxious to beat the RUST on it and see the blooms!

Just came back from Loews on a mission to buy Dragon's Blood for ground cover at bases of trees.
Did not have any - - - but saw Jungle Jack Divine (1st Miniature with tremendous blossoms and branching).
Only $24 in gallon pot. I bought the one with blossoms opening by tomorrow and 5 tips. Bought all of my dozen other trees from Florida Colors Plumeria by mail as newly rooted sticks and the others in pots from personal visits to Exotic Plumeria Site near Tampa. Have you visited Exotic Plumeria? They are great people and have 1,000's of Plumeria trees!
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Aug 1, 2021 12:06 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Great choice on J&J Divine Plumeria. Purchased mine in 2013 from Lowe's as 4 tips with buds. Bloomed every year for me on a short tip so it stayed compact. This was before the frost killed it while we were away on vacation Crying



Yes I have been to Exotic plumeria. My Puu Kahea and a couple others came from them. I really wanted the "Confetti" but it was too pricey for a single cutting.

Then I bought some no ID from HD that had buds and bought Barbados Showgirl (aka Confetti) from Brad Buds and Blooms. When my no ID and Barbados bloomed at the same time they were an exact match. Purchased for a fraction of the price than buying from Exotic Plumeria



Both are reliable for yearly blooms.
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Aug 1, 2021 12:23 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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By the way, if you love plumerias and you want to see a lot of them - definitely Exotic Plumeria is one of the best places to visit especially during blooming season. My hubby had a hard time getting me out of there when we went there twice.

The only reason I didn't go back because I bought a red that rotted (even when I followed the instructions to root) and they said since it was not their fault, they could not replace it. I didn't know back then that it is better to buy "rooted" red plumerias than take chances on rooting them. They were of course right that it was not their fault but as a newbie, I didn't understand why they could not just replace it when they had such a big tree and so many cuttings. So that's when I bought most of my "rooted" cuttings and seeds from Brad Buds and Blooms. (I had 100% success on their rooted cuttings and the seeds they gave me had high germination rate. Years later the seeds have bloomed and the Seeds definitely came from the pod parents, not a bait and switch.) ...And that's how my plumeria jungle started. So I don't buy cuttings or seeds anymore. I have too many too take care of and almost all are in pots.
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Aug 1, 2021 2:12 PM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
WOW WOW WOW ! ! ! I just looked at all of your images of JJ Divine Mini. They are absolutely beautiful! With your feedback, I'm certainly glad that I made the purchase. Thanks for sharing your buying history. I will share mine in this post. I am wondering if there is a 12 step program for Plumeria Nuts like I have become ? ! ? ! ?
Purchased by mail (rooted) from Florida Colors:
India on 4/29/21
Aztec Gold 4/30
California Sally 5/2
Marengo 5/8
Imperial Crown 5/13
Elza FCN 5/17
Purchased by visit (rooted in pot) from Exotic Plumeria:
Mana Loa red 5/22 (3 gal)
Nebels Rainbow 7/4 (7 gal)
LOEWS:
Jungle Jacks Divine 7/27 (1 gal)
Also over a dozen donated cuttings in ground now or pots.
10 seedlings growing well in pots.
About 30 total plus three more of the neighbors until October return.
All are doing terrific except India struggling and Deadra fighting rust.
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Aug 1, 2021 3:02 PM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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Some of these are already in the database so you can add photos of your plumerias. Other named cultivar that are not yet there you can be add to the plumeria database.

I like adding mine into the database to keep track of them. Plus it is a fun and easy way to share like I did, what my plumerias looked like when I first got them or first time i uploaded a photo of them in the database.
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Aug 2, 2021 4:05 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
Good idea. I will check the database later this week and upload some photos.
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Aug 8, 2021 7:39 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
That is all for now.
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Aug 8, 2021 7:42 AM CST
Cape Coral, FL zone 10A
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Aug 8, 2021 7:54 AM CST
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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See if this works, click on the links and scroll down past all the photos until you see upload photo

Aztec Gold
Plumeria (Plumeria rubra 'Aztec Gold')

California Sally
Plumeria (Plumeria rubra 'California Sally')
Marengo
Plumeria (Plumeria rubra 'Marengo')

Imperial Crown
Plumeria (Plumeria rubra 'Imperial Crown')

I could not find Elza.
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