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Aug 13, 2021 7:33 AM CST
Chamonix, France
Hi, a few months ago I planted a few different varieties of pepper - whist 3 of them look very similar and I know exactly what they are the one in these images I have no idea! It now stands at 5' tall, has no flowers or buds forming, and might not even be a pepper - has anyone any idea what it is? Hopefully I've not been nurturing a giant weed for the past few months :(

I was hoping its a cayenne pepper as I do have a packet of seeds for them but internet searches don't show my plant
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Aug 13, 2021 7:37 AM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
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I don't know what it is, but it's not a pepper.
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Aug 13, 2021 9:47 AM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
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I thought about it some more and it reminds me of a berry cane. Could it possibly be some kind of berry?
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Aug 13, 2021 9:56 AM CST
Name: Ed
South Alabama (Zone 8b)
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It does remind me of a beautyberry plant.

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Aug 13, 2021 10:08 AM CST

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It's definitely not a pepper, but it kind of reminds me of a chia plant.
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Aug 13, 2021 12:33 PM CST
Chamonix, France
Thanks for the replies - if its not a pepper I have no idea what it is so it's no longer getting my attention! Cheers folk
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Aug 13, 2021 1:46 PM CST

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morriswa said:Thanks for the replies - if its not a pepper I have no idea what it is so it's no longer getting my attention! Cheers folk


@morriswa Welcome! let it grow and flower, and continue posting. That way we will be able to get a positive identification.
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Aug 13, 2021 2:25 PM CST

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For comparison:


I think it is chia.
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Aug 13, 2021 2:41 PM CST
Name: Janine
NE Connecticut (Zone 6a)
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Could be Green Pepper Basil:
Pepper Basil (Ocimum carnosum)
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Aug 13, 2021 2:56 PM CST

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janinilulu said:Could be Green Pepper Basil:
Pepper Basil (Ocimum carnosum)


@janinilulu That doesn't quite match. Green pepper basil has glossy, light-green, smooth leaves. Note how this mystery plant has rough-looking, dark green leaves.
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Aug 13, 2021 2:58 PM CST
Chamonix, France
We do have chia seeds floating around in the house - guess one could have made its way into a plant pot. In fact after looking at Google pics of chia plants it looks identical.

Thanks for the info everyone, it looks like my mystery plant has a name!
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Aug 13, 2021 3:01 PM CST

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morriswa said:We do have chia seeds floating around in the house - guess one could have made its way into a plant pot


Yes, they do germinate quite easily. This plant attracts lots of insects and pollinators like butterflies. Take good care of it because it will be well worth it! Chia plants can grow up to 6+ ft tall and can produce many flower spikes.
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Aug 13, 2021 4:29 PM CST
Name: Janine
NE Connecticut (Zone 6a)
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Do the leaves have any scent? That might help ID it.
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Aug 13, 2021 4:55 PM CST

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janinilulu said:Do the leaves have any scent? That might help ID it.


It has already been ID'd as a chia Smiling
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Aug 13, 2021 7:24 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Gardener2493 said:

It has already been ID'd as a chia :)


No, not really. Until we see flowers/fruits and all questions are answered satisfactorily, its not identified. Chia is a Salvia - there's lots of them.
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Aug 13, 2021 7:25 PM CST

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DaisyI said:

No, not really. Until we see flowers/fruits and all questions are answered satisfactorily, its not identified. Chia is a Salvia - there's lots of them.


OK, I am very sorry about that.
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Aug 13, 2021 7:30 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Not a problem. I applaud your enthusiasm. Thumbs up
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Aug 13, 2021 7:32 PM CST

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DaisyI said:Not a problem. I applaud your enthusiasm. Thumbs up


Really? Thank you. But I'm going to take a break so I can cool down. I'm really surprised I'm not blocked yet.
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Aug 21, 2021 8:48 PM CST

You will discover square stems and stalk if it is a salvia… mint family. So if chai, stems will be square, but that would be true for the many other family members as well. (Thank goodness we don't need to use our nose for that identifying factor!)

I thought Intheswamp's observation on Beautyberry was rather keen, except leaf orientation along stem isn't same and veins are different.
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