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Aug 15, 2021 1:36 PM CST
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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she said, "There is a huge orb weaver on my patio. Let's find out its name."

Here it is.....................................

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Does anyone know its name?
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Aug 15, 2021 1:47 PM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
Crescit Eundo
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Charlotte
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Aug 15, 2021 1:58 PM CST
Georgia (Zone 8a)
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Black And Yellow Argiope/Garden Spider (Argiope aurantia)
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Aug 15, 2021 2:03 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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I've always called it a yellow orb weaver. Apparently it goes by many names:

The spider species Argiope aurantia is commonly known as the yellow garden spider, black and yellow garden spider, golden garden spider, writing spider, zigzag spider, zipper spider, black and yellow argiope, corn spider, Steeler spider, or McKinley spider. The species was first described by Hippolyte Lucas in 1833.

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For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 16, 2021 4:34 PM CST
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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I vaguely remember Charlotte... didn't she save a pig's life... or something equally noble?

Thanks again, Zoe. My gardening friend will be delighted that she can call her spider a "yellow orb weaver" because she turns her nose up at Latin names.

Your photo was very clear and "Charlotte's" details can clearly be seen.

Thanks again.
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Aug 16, 2021 6:43 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Region: New Mexico Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Credit Henderman for dubbing her Charlotte. Yes, she wove messages in her web and saved Homer (I think?) from the butcher. 🐷🕸️
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 16, 2021 8:37 PM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
Crescit Eundo
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The pig was Wilbur
Fern was the girl
Templeton the rat...

One of the first books I ever read on my own. I cried then and when I read it again a few years ago I cried some more. Reading is great.
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Aug 16, 2021 10:15 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Wilbur! Thanks Henderman. I was certain had a copy of it and wanted to check the pig's name, but couldn't find it. Maybe my daughter has it. Wonderful book. Thumbs up
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 17, 2021 10:35 PM CST
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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This conversation feels a whole lot like I'm going down another rabbit hole.

Let's see... we started with spiders... advanced to pigs... covered little girls and rats in a sidebar...

All we need now is Absolem... and we would at least be back to insects and bugs.
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Aug 17, 2021 11:57 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 18, 2021 7:54 AM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
Crescit Eundo
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Gorgeous! Glad he's not eating at my place!
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Aug 18, 2021 8:16 AM CST
Port d'Envaux, France (Zone 9a)
A Darwinian gardener
NMoasis said:...she wove messages in her web and saved Homer (I think?) from the butcher. 🐷🕸️


I believe you are confusing E. B. White with the Iliad and the Odyssey, a natural mistake.
I find myself most amusing.
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Aug 18, 2021 10:18 AM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Hard to say. Could've just as likely been Matt Groening.
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 18, 2021 5:02 PM CST
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Or... Homer Hickam.............................. loved that story.........
[talk about off topic...... the spiders must be feeling ignored.]

My curiosity is killing me...

Please translate "Crescit Eundo"....................................
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What, please, is a "Darwinian gardener"?
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Aug 18, 2021 5:28 PM CST
Taos, New Mexico (Zone 5b)
Crescit Eundo
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The official motto of New Mexico is Crescit eundo. Translated from Latin, it means "It grows as it goes". Its also a good motto for a gardener.
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Aug 18, 2021 5:32 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Region: New Mexico Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Oo, oo, oo I know! (hand waving wildly in the air)
It grows as it goes—motto of New Mexico. Whatever that means!

I can guess what JB is referencing, but will let him explain it.
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 18, 2021 5:33 PM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
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Shucks, I type too slowly on my phone. I agree, it makes more sense as a gardening motto.
For me, gardening is really just an excuse for playing in the dirt. Admittedly, plants are a satisfying by-product.
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Aug 18, 2021 5:47 PM CST
Port d'Envaux, France (Zone 9a)
A Darwinian gardener
jathton said:
Or... Homer Hickam.............................. loved that story.........
[talk about off topic...... the spiders must be feeling ignored.]

My curiosity is killing me...

Please translate "Crescit Eundo"....................................
and
What, please, is a "Darwinian gardener"?


Zounds! I feel very ignorant; I have never heard of either Homer Groening or Hickman. I just looked them up so at least I'd understand the reference. I still don't know them or their work.
Crescit Eundo I remember from US History (do they still teach that?) as being from a Latin poem (don't ask me the name after all these years). I think it referred to lightning increasing its power as it charges through the atmosphere (it grows as it goes) and that as a representation of dynamism.

I can definitively respond to the meaning of Darwinian gardening as I coined the phrase - in my garden it is decidedly survival of the fittest, the term Darwin used in his theory of evolution. It is a play on that term as I feel that I often kill as many plants as I nurture. Also because most(?) people think that Darwin meant the strongest of a species survives but, in fact, he was saying that the species most adept at change do so. So I also mean it to acknowledge that those plants that merely survive or even thrive in my garden do so despite my constantly changing things around them.
Normally I would now take ten minutes and edit my reply so that it was more cogent and direct, maybe even humorous, but it is late and you are getting my unpolished response.
I find myself most amusing.
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Aug 18, 2021 9:16 PM CST
Name: John
Oklahoma City, OK (Zone 7a)
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Zoe... might be willing to tell you about the Groening reference... I've only seen ONE episode of "Homer" in my whole life. I'm still not sure how or why I skipped past that phase in life.

But Homer Hickam I could talk about at length... and possibly bore you senseless. Try watching the movie "October Sky"... it is his true story and it is beautifully filmed & told.

'Darwinian gardener' is a fine phrase.
While studying design I took a class about IPM [Integrated Pest Management] but I argued with the professor on a regular basis. One day he asked why I disliked using chemicals and I answered "It's been my experience that spraying makes for fewer bugs... but the ones that remain are larger." That's my story and attitude and I'm sticking with it.

I had a hard time with Darwin's book... but I remember very fondly the way he summarized it when he wrote, ""Thus from the war of nature, from famine and death the most exalted object we are capable of conceiving, namely the production of higher animals, directly followed. There is grandeur in this view of life. For whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning, endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved."
Yes, I like that very much.

Oh, since this is the bug forum I'd like to introduce one of my favorites... always welcome... helps level the playing field, so to speak:
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Stagmomantis carolina [Carolina Mantis]
This one is an adult female... and the look on her face says, "I'm so hungry I could eat my husband!"

I almost forgot... Crescet Eundo does make a fine creed for a gardener... and a state.
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Aug 19, 2021 12:26 AM CST
Name: Zoë
Albuquerque NM, Elev 5310 ft (Zone 7b)
Bee Lover Bookworm Cat Lover Composter Container Gardener Herbs
Region: New Mexico Salvias Enjoys or suffers hot summers
There is a thread elsewhere called "Endless forms most beautiful" started by Gina1960 (she of the spectacular aroids). She actually pulled the quotation from a book title. Breathtakingly beautiful plants on Gina's thread https://garden.org/thread/go/1...
and the book looks terrific, too https://www.seanbcarroll.com/e...

Thanks for the recommendation about October Sky. I love space stuff. Truth be told, I've probably watched fewer than half a dozen episodes of The Simpsons in my life, but some things are so ingrained in contemporary culture that you know them even if you don't. Mostly it was simply another "Homer" that came to mind after JB's comment re The Illiad & The Odyssey. (Note to @JBarstool—Matt Groening created the The Simpsons. Good god we're all over the place.)

Finally, and most important, check out The Praying Mantis Fan Club Thread. Lots of fun there!
https://garden.org/thread/go/1...

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