Adeniums forum→Experiment: Encouraging Branching Without pruning

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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 17, 2021 8:29 PM CST
My experiment is about an article I read at Zenyr Garden that you can encourage branching without cutting by wiring/training the branches (bonsai like). Since I defoliated "Chickie" when I was trying to revive it, all stems are long and lanky with only few leaves and spent blooms are left on the tips. The branches are too new (growth this year) and if I prune Chickie, the branches will not be viable as cuttings. So here is what Chickie looks like now:
Thumb of 2021-08-18/GigiPlumeria/579bf4

I will update a photo in 2 weeks if new growths will in fact grow from the leaf nodes of the bent branches. This is supposed to be safe process and faster growth of branches than pruning.
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Name: TJOE
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Kaktus
Aug 17, 2021 9:40 PM CST
Gigi, Are you referring to the method of bending the branch and expect the branch on top that expose to sunlight will grow new branches ? If so , I tried that before and failed, even though they can succeed in youtube, hope it works for yours.. Thumbs up
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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 17, 2021 9:48 PM CST
Yes Whistling hope it works! I should have asked fit if anyone has tried it. I will know in 2 weeks if it will work or not.

If not, then I will have this odd looking adenium. Hilarious!
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Aashna
Aug 18, 2021 1:22 AM CST
I have seen branches bifurcating without pruning like a "v" how does that happen?
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 18, 2021 5:59 AM CST
Not sure how the V type branching work.

I just realized I might have to revisit my bonsai wiring at some point so it doesn't impede the new growth. I have my wiring to close because my wire was too small and branches won't bed. I need bigger wires.
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Name: TJOE
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Kaktus
Aug 18, 2021 7:51 AM CST
Aashna said:I have seen branches bifurcating without pruning like a "v" how does that happen?


either you prune it, or sometimes they will naturally create a V branch, and I possibly it is also in the genetic of some plants, I have 1 that have V branch, and later it also develop another V on top of the original V, will try to take some picture tomorrow
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Kaktus
Aug 18, 2021 5:56 PM CST
This is the one that last time I tried to bend for new branches on top, since it is not working, the. I cut and attached them to make an 8 shape.
Forget to mention, if you saw a video that making a fine cut above the node will promote new branches, also failed for me
Thumb of 2021-08-18/Kaktus/967a43

When I created this, I aimed for an 8 shaped trunk with 10 to 20 branches around it, but nothing happened
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Name: TJOE
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Kaktus
Aug 18, 2021 6:03 PM CST
Kaktus said:

either you prune it, or sometimes they will naturally create a V branch, and I possibly it is also in the genetic of some plants, I have 1 that have V branch, and later it also develop another V on top of the original V, will try to take some picture tomorrow


This is the plant , the V shapes are naturally branched
Thumb of 2021-08-19/Kaktus/9b2f1d

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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 18, 2021 6:04 PM CST
Thank You! for the heads up, if nothing happens i will keep it as umbrella shaped bonsai. Hilarious!
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Wildbloomers
Aug 22, 2021 7:07 PM CST
@GigiPlumeria If you're worried about the wires on the stems impeding growth try this instead. Make a circle of wire larger than the base of the pot but smaller than the rim. Wrap a few wires around the circle (kind of like a big spider) long enough to reach the stem tips. Then just wire the stem ends as low as you feel comfortable. It may end up looking like an umbrella frame with the tips of the ribs tied to a fat umbrella stand.
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Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 22, 2021 7:54 PM CST
@Wildbloomers, I did check following day and seems like the wires were skinny so they did not block the leaf nodes. But if this turns out successful, I like your idea better and will use it on my other adeniums that are leggy. I used way too many wires on this and took a lot of time. So far no movements yet. They are supposed to show growth in 2 weeks but I doubt it. Will keep updated picture in 2 weeks.
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Name: TJOE
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Kaktus
Aug 23, 2021 11:22 PM CST
I used steel wire to bend the sleeping nanny, not the wire for bonsai, it created some scars..
Thumb of 2021-08-24/Kaktus/dd658b

If they look healthy, do nothing
Name: Gigi
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GigiPlumeria
Aug 28, 2021 1:02 PM CST
I read aluminum wire is okay. I will continue checking. I have not seen any sign of growth Whistling Whistling so this could just be another "you tube" make believe.

"But...but.. I've seen a before and after photo....and it worked!"
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Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
Sep 19, 2021 12:01 PM CST
Original post 8/17/2021:
GigiPlumeria said:My experiment is about an article I read at Zenyr Garden that you can encourage branching without cutting by wiring/training the branches (bonsai like). Since I defoliated "Chickie" when I was trying to revive it, all stems are long and lanky with only few leaves and spent blooms are left on the tips. The branches are too new (growth this year) and if I prune Chickie, the branches will not be viable as cuttings. So here is what Chickie looks like now:
Thumb of 2021-08-18/GigiPlumeria/579bf4

I will update a photo in 2 weeks if new growths will in fact grow from the leaf nodes of the bent branches. This is supposed to be safe process and faster growth of branches than pruning.


Update 9/17/2021: top view
Very slow progress but I think it is because I did not trim the tips to encourage branching. I want this to be "real" no pruning experiment.

Thumb of 2021-09-19/GigiPlumeria/f05e00

©by Gigi Plumeria "Gardening is my favorite pastime. I grow whatever plant that catches my attention." Plumeria Photos http://www.flickr.com/groups/c... plant photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/g...

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