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Aug 23, 2021 9:08 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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A few times recently I've seen warnings for people to avoid touching mushrooms and I am wondering about the origins of this information. I've never heard/seen these types of warnings before and can't find any information about any kind of mushroom that can be harmful by just touching it. Absolutely, there are some that are dangerous to ingest, but ingestion is not equal to touching. Being repulsed is a valid reason for not wanting to touch a strange mushroom, but that doesn't make it dangerous.

The CW I've always seen is that when mushrooms appear in a garden, there is no action required and the mushrooms are harmless to the plants, a natural and positive part of a healthy ecosystem. There is evidence that mushrooms have a symbiotic relationship to various plants under the soil surface, but I've not been exposed to any info indicating that there is any kind of detriment to any kinds of plants that is caused by mushrooms.

The visible above-ground parts of mushrooms are very small and ephemeral parts of the whole organism, most of which is under the soil surface, like an iceburg in water. So removing them is similar to removing a single bloom from a shrub. One has not removed a shrub by trimming its' bloom.

Please share if there is information about mushroom causing harm via casual contact. TIA!
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Aug 23, 2021 10:38 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
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All those dire warnings are from just one member in the Forum.
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Aug 23, 2021 10:47 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I saw more than one person offering these warnings. It would be presumptuous of me to assume I know everything and multiple other people know nothing, so I am asking.
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Aug 23, 2021 11:01 AM CST
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You're not going to get sick by touching a "poisonous" mushroom. As you said, you would have to eat it.

There are good reasons not to pick mushrooms that you are not going to eat. I think its a good practice to leave them in place for others to see and enjoy. And they are an important part of the forest lifecycle, so I think its best not to disturb them without a good reason.
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Aug 23, 2021 1:37 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
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I have read these "dire warnings' with regards to Fly Aminitas, Death Angels!! If a person is particularly susceptible to its toxins, deaths have occurred. Many people have become violently ill. I am surprised that some of you, who seem to know everything, you are not aware of this.

It seems to me that a little precaution is sound advice when handling mushrooms that you are not 100% sure about.

Yet I did not guarantee a horrible death! I did not go running around like Chicken Little claiming the sky is falling, the sky is falling. All I did was suggest caution. I am greatly disappointed in 'fellow posters' who seem intent on proving me to be some kind of idiot!
I just amazes me how some people wave their ignorance around like it was some thing to be proud of.

I say the heck with all of you!
Really attacking me for suggesting caution. You should all be ashamed.
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Aug 23, 2021 1:42 PM CST

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I am sorry.
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Aug 23, 2021 1:49 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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Let's tone this down: if you don't know the species of mushroom or fungi, it would probably not be good to touch it with your hands. The caution is that even now, during the Pandemic with all this hand washing, some folks probably don't wash their hands enough, or sufficiently. Then they could touch their fingers to their mouth, and possibly transfer the fungi that way. I don't think there are very many people out there that eat unidentified mushrooms; I think that most folks have been warned since childhood not to do that, but there is always the chance that substances can be transferred to the mouth by dirty hands. And at least we realize there are some very harmful natural substances out there, and it doesn't take much of these substances to make a person very ill. Think about poison ivy. For some people it's barely a brush on the skin, and they're covered with painful blisters.
I don't think it's ever foolish to err on the side of caution. Cautious people stay healthy, Covid being the exception.
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Aug 23, 2021 2:25 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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BigBill said:I say the heck with all of you!
Really attacking me for suggesting caution. You should all be ashamed.


I didn't mention any names and you actually weren't the person I was thinking of. Hilarious! As far as handling Death Angels, make sure to wash your hands or you may poison yourself.

The post I was thinking about concerned the little mushrooms that grow in potting soil. The warning should be if you pull them, wash your hands well, not hysteria.
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Aug 23, 2021 2:34 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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I did not post this to attack anyone, or question anyone, just to question myself and what I've always heard. I thought I said that clearly initially, but apparently not. It's possible that there could be some new information, and I never claimed to have all of it. There's no reason to not be able to calmly discuss this, or close our minds to a subject and refuse to accept any new information, should some become available.

I don't think anyone who is smart enough to join a garden site and seek more info is an idiot. How is asking for info "waving around ignorance?" I'm really confused now.
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Aug 23, 2021 2:43 PM CST
Name: Lynda Horn
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Tiffany, I, for one, took no offense to your post. We are all ignorant about some aspects of gardening; why else would we join this website if not for more information? It seems some folks have a hard time sometimes with certain posts or certain peoples posts, we just have to accept that and move on. Perhaps Joshua can lock this thread so no more damage is done.
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Aug 23, 2021 2:45 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Thank you, Lynda, but I don't understand how asking a question causes damage. I am not ashamed about asking if there is more information.
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Is this thread about what I said about the mushrooms in potting soil?
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Aug 23, 2021 3:11 PM CST
Name: K
Seattle, WA (Zone 8b)
There's a word for the condition of those who choose to "exercise caution" where there is no reasonable
expectation of harm: "paranoia".
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Aug 23, 2021 3:12 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Tiffany, It was a good question. I caused the fuss by saying I felt it was just one member. I was taken off guard by BigBill's response as I haven't seen one of his posts in weeks.

Checking the science, there is at least one mushroom that can kill you by touching it - the Fire Coral Fungus.

Gardener2493, I think you have a great future on NGA. Keep identifying but check your facts before proclamations (houseplant mushrooms won't kill you if you touch them Rolling on the floor laughing )

I don't think this thread needs locking.
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Aug 23, 2021 3:39 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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kreemoweet said:There's a word for the condition of those who choose to "exercise caution" where there is no reasonable
expectation of harm: "paranoia".

Bravo -- it is the tool of politicians now.
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Aug 23, 2021 3:45 PM CST
Name: Dr. Demento Jr.
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DaisyI said:Tiffany, It was a good question. I caused the fuss by saying I felt it was just one member. I was taken off guard by BigBill's response as I haven't seen one of his posts in weeks.
Checking the science, there is at least one mushroom that can kill you by touching it - the Fire Coral Fungus.

Gardener2493, I think you have a great future on NGA. Keep identifying but check your facts before proclamations (houseplant mushrooms won't kill you if you touch them Rolling on the floor laughing )
I don't think this thread needs locking.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/20...
The world's second-deadliest fungus has been spotted growing near a popular hiking trail near Cairns, prompting a warning to bushwalkers.

Key points:
Poison fire coral can cause skin irritation if touched, and can kill you if you ingest it
The species is considered the world's second-deadliest fungus
It originates from Japan and Korea but it's thought to now be occurring naturally in northern Australia

Poison fire coral was first recorded in Cairns in October 2019, and if ingested, can cause the brain to shrink, skin delamination, and even death.
Brad Messer, an avid nature photographer, spotted the rare fungus near Stoney Creek while hiking with his wife.

"It immediately struck me as looking like hands reaching out, so I put my hand close to it for the photo to get a picture of the scale," he said.
"My fingers started to extend but I thought, 'I don't know if I really want to touch this thing'.


Better be careful boys and girls, I got banned from the Sandbox because I wasn't paranoid about the Chinese Virus and some godwannabes did not like that. Rolling my eyes.
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Aug 24, 2021 3:12 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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...so there IS new information. Going by the images I found in a search, it looks like the kind of thing I think most people would WANT to touch if they happened to see one. Some of them look like hands, beckoning like "come over here and touch me." Knowledge of the danger posed by this thing seems like incredibly valuable info to have.

Seriously, I did not make this discussion to "out"' anyone or 2nd-guess anyone. I just wanted more info. When I see multiple people say something that conflicts with the info I have already gathered, my reaction is that I want to re-check, re-confirm the info I have already gathered and solicit more if it exists. Double-checking and re-confirming that I shouldn't be harmed by funky fungi seems prudent. Most of my plants will give me a rash if I let them, so if anyone should be concerned about touching things, it's definitely me.

If I didn't value the info & opinions of other gardeners, I wouldn't hang around here. And info is only good if it stands up to scrutiny and debate.

Thank you for the replies!
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Aug 29, 2021 12:28 PM CST
Name: brenda reith
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I don't touch them-just let them wither away on their own. however, I have seen smaller mushrooms growing in my porch plants soil and those I just brush into the dirt. the fungus among us. no harm done.
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Aug 31, 2021 10:34 AM CST

I've been hunting and eating wild mushrooms for 30 years and gone on many forays with several different clubs whose members are very knowledgeable. I've also picked up poisonous ones to examine more closely but I don't worry about touching with my bare hands. In all those years hanging out with fellow shroomers I've never been cautioned about touching any fungi so it's hard to determine where that idea comes from. However, it seems a little caution wouldn't hurt , particularly with those unfamiliar with mushrooms, so I don't see the harm in this advice though maybe modify it to "probably a good idea to wash your hands after handling an unidentifiable mushroom" . For myself I just wipe my hands on my clothes when I touch a poisonous one.

I do worry about children and dogs when I see mushrooms in front yards and I remove them from my own yard if they might be attractive to little peoples. The mycelium can grow all it wants in my back yard.
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Aug 31, 2021 11:16 AM CST
Name: Ratchet
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I would watch the kids and dogs. My dog pounces on anything that falls from my hands and hits the floor or the ground. He gulps, doesn't stop to taste or chew.
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