September has always been our month to discuss Palatine's offerings for the coming year. Many of us eagerly waited for the Palatine site to be updated in late August, we placed orders early in September, and we planted our new bare-root roses in the middle of November. Regrettably, all of this has changed. This year the Palatine site will be updated early in December, orders will start to be taken on December 6th, and the roses will be shipped in March and April. Fall planting was so convenient for those of us with a brief rainy season in late fall and winter. By April there's not much hope of rain in my location and many others. Too bad.

Summer will end and autumn will begin later this month, so the thumbnail rose for this month's thread Is 'Autumn,' a 1928 Coddington Pernetiana. It's one of the first roses I ever bought and is still one of my favorites.

This month's rose demonstrates lovely autumn colors! It helps me remember how I look forward to autumn each year.

Zuzu, I could be totally wrong here, but I thought I read on another rose forum that Palatine was going to release their list on Sept. 6, even though they've changed their ordering to December. But I totally agree about how wonderful it was getting their bare root roses in the fall for those of us in California. And I'm hoping that we can request at least a late January or early February ship date! March and April are well beyond our bare root season here.

Correction about Palatine: according to the other rose forum which I just read, Palatine's FB page says they intend to have their list up by "mid-September".

Thanks, Susan. That's good to know. I had assumed they wouldn't be finished with the update until December because their website says: "Between early December to the next December there is no new inventory added unless we have cancellations." I interpreted that to mean that new inventory could be added until early December.

I wonder if this will hurt their business. Customers accustomed to fall planting could start buying all or most of their roses elsewhere.

Wow, that is one incredible gorgeous flower. Thank you Zuzu

It's definitely your kind of rose, Margie. Bred by Coddington just two years before he released 'President Herbert Hoover,' one of your faves.

I had Autumn for a while, can't remember how I lost it, probably when we moved. Just looked at Zuzu's and my photos in the database, that is my kind of yummy rose, all those lovely colors!

You are correct. I have Talisman on order for next Spring delivery - lol

Talisman's another of the Pernetianas with all of the sherbet colors in one rose.

Here's an Autumn photo I never added to the database because it's too small, but it shows how changeable the colors can be. The thumbnail photo was taken in May and this one shows the bloom in October.

Stunning!

It's pouring rain like crazy here - it's scary.

Has anyone here ever considered having a coffee table rose photo album made up? There will come a time where I won't be able to maintain this garden so I thought this might be a good idea.
This company states they use archival paper.
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Zuzu, your Autumn has so many petals! Mine is young, and I hope it can take off next year!
It's the second bloom in July.

Yes, Margie, it rained, and rained, and rained. I was googling "Ark construction plans" all night long.

Interesting conundrum: Central Park had 7 inches of rain from 1 am Wednesday to 1 am Thursday, but there was relatively little storm damage in Manhattan. However, Kennedy Airport had 2.5 inches for the same period, but Brooklyn and Queens (where JFK is located) had very serious flooding and storm damage. Go figure.

Pavement is evil.

Oh Zuzu, you should add that photo! It doesn't look too small to me, enlarged nicely. So many of mine straight off the cell phone are too big when enlarged.

Response to David's post:

Larry
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/...

"Steady to rapid strengthening is forecast during
the next couple of days, and Larry is expected to become a a major
hurricane by Friday night."

Oh, Margie.
I think I'll find some quiet, safe place to settle down in.
I hear things have quieted down in Afghanistan .

Well if you decide to go....remember, it may be a one way ticket. I prefer to remain here & sleep wearing a life jacket.

Zuzu, I have special software that does what used to be impossible: it exponentially increases the size and resolution of small photographs while simultaneously increasing the clarity and acuity of the image, and decreasing jpg artifacts and digital noise. So I took the liberty of cropping your photograph and running it through the software to enlarge it and post it below. You can click on it and save it to your computer, and then add it to the data base.