Lilies forum: Looking for this one

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MAINIAC
Mar 2, 2013 8:26 AM CST
This was my husband's favorite lily and it seems I have lost them both. I would dearly love to get this lily again.. It was by the Crocker's of Minnesota.
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Name: Diann
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Ticker
Mar 2, 2013 5:38 PM CST
Did you check with Wanda??
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gwhizz
Mar 2, 2013 7:26 PM CST
I can see why it was his favourite Thumbs up
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magnolialover
Mar 3, 2013 8:43 PM CST

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Or Lefty?
Tracey
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Mar 4, 2013 9:32 PM CST
I remember Ruth or Hugh Cocker (no "r") telling me once that they had some similar seedlings to Dots and Dashs out of that batch of siblings. But I think Dots and Dashs is the only one they named. Ramona, did it have a name, or could it have just been numbered? Some of Cocker's clones that are only numbered are in circulation here at the epicenter. Big Grin I used to have one that had white and green variegated leaves in the spring that was from them. But it was just a novelty, a pretty weak grower and not very showy.

We've made a huge expansion of the lily beds at Arneson Park here in Minneapolis to house Minnnesota bred Lilium cultivars. If you come to the National convention in 2014, it will be on the tour lists.


MAINIAC
Mar 7, 2013 8:29 PM CST
Another Minnesota hybrid I would love to find again. named Minn
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Mar 7, 2013 9:36 PM CST
I thought maybe I had a similar numbered one like this last one in the garden, but when I looked at my photos, it's a 1bc. But as I was looking I came across my pics of Dots and Dashs, and your pic above is indeed it. (And you've probably already figured that out Big Grin .) It's been so long that I thought the cultivar had more clearly defined dots and dashes throughout, but I was wrong.

A scan of an old pic of Dots and Dashs:

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Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
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Roosterlorn
Mar 8, 2013 9:32 AM CST
This thread is interesting to me. Every year I 'lily hunt' for older cultivars by just driving thru older well kept neighborhoods and snooping around peoples' backyards under the cover of a rummage or garage or estate sale. And if I can get in one backyard, I can usually see the backyards on either side making it a triple. About what year were these on the market? I'll keep an eye out for these and Thunderbolt--the one grapus is looking for. I always say: "a good lily is where you find it" Remember now, this is how I first got my real start with lilies--by somebody bringing me a box full from an estate sale. And I've hunted for lilies every summer since.

MAINIAC
Mar 8, 2013 11:12 AM CST
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another picture of Minn
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Leftwood
Mar 8, 2013 6:00 PM CST
Dots and Dashs was registered in 1999. Kathy Jan was also registered in 1999. Hugh told me he hybridized Kathy Jan in 1981.

Not that the list is complete, but I don't see "Minn" in the Minnesota hybridizer's list yet.
http://www.northstarlilysociety.com/mnlilies.shtml
The site is getting a facelift.
I sure miss the Lily Register...

Our next local Lily Society meeting is March 17. Brian Bergman from Ontario will be speaking nodding . I don't often get to go to the March meeting, but I am going this time.
I'll see what I can find out about Minn.
And anything else anyone is wondering about that may pertain to Minnesota hybrids or Brian Bergman, let me know. This will be an opportune time to ask.

Actually, tomorrow, 9 March, their is a Spring Expo at our Minnesota Arboretum. Several plant societies will have display tables to promote their club. I will be there representing the North American Rock Garden Society and American Conifer Society. I know there will be some from the North Star Lily Society there, too, and I can inquire.
I'll copy off your picture of Minn, Ramona, and bring it along.
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Roosterlorn
Mar 8, 2013 8:48 PM CST
Rick, that's a very well organized listing. I just spent well over an hour going through it (and I made a copy of it for my library, too). Do you know if there are plans to develop listings for other Divisions? I'm looking for material on work that Julius Wadekamper did, particularily with Division VI. My Father knew of him and had quite a bit of his stock at one time as did our closest neighbor. I noticed a (white) Dots and Dashes look-a- like called Snowlark--check it out. (names displayed in grey have photos).

Ramona, I see on the other 'old website' there was a photo of Dots and Dashes posted in 2006, located in Lake Hallie, Wisconsin. Even though that's about 300 miles from here, it just so happens to be a Agricultural Supply bussiness there that I buy from--so I'm there 3 or 4 times during a year. Chances are pretty good that lily is still thiving, since the person that posted it also posted 78 other lilies. So, it's an easy followup. My old college sweetheart grew up there so I spent a lot of time in that little place back in the early 60's.
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Mar 8, 2013 9:34 PM CST
Well in my opinion, there is a huge difference in the pattern between Snowlark and Dots and Dashs. Anyway, you may also have noticed that the photo options listed in the Minnesota hybrids list is not synced with the Minnesota hybrid photos. There are some pics there that are not displayed in grey on the list. A few other "improvements" that still need to be done - as I said the site is pretty newly revamped.

There is no distinction that disallows certain divisions on the MN hybrids list, as far as I know. If they are missing some (and I'm sure there are still many), it's only because they don't know or haven't gotten to it yet. Our present president of our Society has the giant book of all registered lilies, but the listing doesn't differentiate anymore as to who actually hybridized and who actually registered. At any rate, if you have any names, I'll surely pass them along.
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Roosterlorn
Mar 8, 2013 9:48 PM CST
The list I pulled up is all type I, a, b or c.
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gwhizz
Mar 9, 2013 1:22 AM CST
I was thinking >>>> same area! Thumbs up
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MAINIAC
Mar 9, 2013 2:23 PM CST
Lefty, I think the hybridizer of Minn was someone by the name of Dorr or something like that...
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MrDad
Mar 12, 2013 9:13 AM CST
Is Pink Jazz available anymore?

Thank you

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