All Things Gardening forum: Thoughts about using this area

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Name: Mike Keough
San Francisco, CA. (Zone 10a)
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putitupmike
Mar 4, 2013 11:31 AM CST
This is my third year living in a very foggy area of San Francisco. I would like to grow Carrots, lettuce, Chard, Bok Choy and any other Winter kind of veggies and the only area I have available has it's limits. I have included a few photos of the area for some evaluation and your thoughts. How do I plant for maximum coverage and a way to actually harvest? As the sun moves along this area which runs East to West, each area gets about four hours of sun when the sun is actually shining. Suggestions? Thanks, MikeThumb of 2013-03-04/putitupmike/390965
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Name: Greg Colucci
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gg5
Mar 8, 2013 12:01 AM CST
I've found lettuce to be very easy to grow/harvest. Carrots I grown haven't done much, they were tasty but tiny! Chard also should be a good choice there, and since you already have some growing you can add to, or plant other things around it!
It looks like you have lots of space so that's nice! Hurray! Enjoy, post photo! I tip my hat to you.
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Bonehead
Mar 8, 2013 10:52 AM CST
I've had good luck with carrots in a bed that accidentally got a heavier than usual load of sand in it.
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woofie
Mar 8, 2013 11:57 AM CST
There are also those little short, round carrots. And if you like spinach, I'd think it might do well there.
We need to get RickCorey over here; this sounds like his kind of project! Smiling
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Name: Mike Keough
San Francisco, CA. (Zone 10a)
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putitupmike
Mar 8, 2013 12:41 PM CST
Hi group. Thanks for your thoughts about what to grow. I agree! All those Winter kind of crops which I listed are the things I have had good luck growing. My question remains... " How do I plant for maximum coverage and a way to actually harvest?" It's getting around the first planting to the second and harvesting which I am having trouble with. Mike
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Mar 8, 2013 11:42 PM CST
Sorry Mike, I only grow ornamentals except for lettuce, and I harvest that whenever I want it! Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Mar 9, 2013 12:30 AM CST
"Very foggy" seems like a tough one.

The only time I have trouble harvesting is when I've made a bed too wide. For me that's around 2 feet wide, if I only have access to one side. So I'm happiest when I make my beds three feet wide, or four at most when access is easy from both sides.

Is reaching around things the problem? Maybe planting the4 tallest things in the center or back of a bed, and low things at the front would help. But if you have part shade and lots of fog, you nv eer want a tall anything casting shadows on short anythings!

I also don't bend well or squat easily, so I like a raised bed PLUS a sunken path between the beds. If you're nimble, you might get by with some kind of easy access into the beds, like sunken cinder blocks to stand on without compressing the soil.

I might try to make more beds, long narrow beds, with sunken walkways between them. Maybe a steppingstone every 10-15 feet in a long bed so you can step over it wiothout wlaking around or compressing the soil.

Throwing the topsoil from the walkways onto the beds makes the good soil deeper where the plants are. Even a few2 inches helps, and the walls could be a single 8" or 12" board, or concrete paving stones.

That also gives you great drainage, but your soil looks well drained.

You have a few tall containers: it seems as if they would be easy to reach even if surrounded by low plants like Bok Choy.

P.S. They look like they would enjoy some mulch, like bark chunks or wood chips. Do you add much compost?

P.P.S. I'll be busy this weekend and probably offline from now until Monday, hence slow to respond.
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Name: Mike Keough
San Francisco, CA. (Zone 10a)
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putitupmike
Apr 22, 2013 3:00 PM CST
Rick Corey, lots of things to consider. Thank you. And your garden is wonderful.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Apr 22, 2013 6:45 PM CST
Thanks very much. I wish I had 10 times as much compost and 10 times as much time to spend in the garden!

If you have sun and space, you can eventually make your own soil. IF you can get or make enough compost!
Name: Mike Keough
San Francisco, CA. (Zone 10a)
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putitupmike
Mar 17, 2014 12:01 PM CST
Wow! I just got a notification that all of you have responded, beyond what I had seen before. I am sorry that I have been inattentive, and do thank you for your notes.
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gardengus
Mar 17, 2014 1:24 PM CST
so how did you make out last year (report Smiling )
...and what is on for the area this year?
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NJBob
Mar 19, 2014 6:08 PM CST
http://noevalleyvoice.com/2005/March/Gard.html
See if this helps at all.

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