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Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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creativeclover
Nov 22, 2021 5:58 PM CST
Been thinking of trying my hand at making a cross or two when the irises bloom.

What would you choose for your crosses if you were to do a cross. Mine would be Blackbeard and Dream lover
2) Missouri mist with Muppet
3) Indian chief with pink lace.
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Region: New Mexico Region: United States of America Irises Region: Southwest Gardening Dog Lover
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GreenIris
Nov 22, 2021 7:12 PM CST
>Aqua x Fly Butterfly
>Beauty Within(if it's still alive) with anything blooming at the same time that is beautiful
>Butterfly Affair with anything blooming at the time that is green or semi-green
I think the people who grow Irises are about as special as the flower itself!
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 22, 2021 7:30 PM CST
I have a Bronze noid with brown veins. I would like to cross it with Sans Souci.
I started wondering what the vein color has to do with the flower color in a cross.
The limitation is that Sans Souci is diploid and has not been a prolific parent. I have no idea what the "ploid" of the Bronze is, most likely Tetra.


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Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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creativeclover
Nov 22, 2021 7:40 PM CST
Ratchet, the bronze noid sounds nice. Overall I think it would be an interesting cross.
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 23, 2021 10:30 AM CST
It is fun to research the development of modern Iris.
Now that the season has ended, it is time to make lists of Irises to acquire and time to learn more about the cultivation and propagation of Iris.
I toyed with hybridizing African Violets so I have a general idea of genetics.
And I have an Arilbred which is where I got the alert on diploid/tetraploid crosses.
There is much to learn and explore with Iris.
Name: Richard
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creativeclover
Nov 23, 2021 11:33 AM CST
Ratchet, there is Lot to learn about them.
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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irisarian
Nov 23, 2021 2:48 PM CST
John & I did median crosses. He did one with the white I. aphylla & SDB seedlings resulting in a whitetish iris 'Quogue'.
Thumb of 2021-11-23/irisarian/ea5657 I thinkj that I found the aphylla under its seedling number in the garden & would like t o play with it & Quogue t o work on MDBs.

Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 23, 2021 2:50 PM CST
GreenIris said:>Aqua x Fly Butterfly
>Beauty Within(if it's still alive) with anything blooming at the same time that is beautiful
>Butterfly Affair with anything blooming at the time that is green or semi-green

Iris Wiki: Pollen can remain viable for a week or more stored cool and dry. If it is frozen, it can often remain viable for over a year.
Basic Technique: Anthers can be harvested, dried for a few minutes, popped into a coin envelope and placed in the refrigerator for use within a few days; if not, the pollen can be put in the freezer for long term storage.

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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 23, 2021 5:10 PM CST
creativeclover said:Been thinking of trying my hand at making a cross or two when the irises bloom.

What would you choose for your crosses if you were to do a cross. Mine would be Blackbeard and Dream lover
2) Missouri mist with Muppet
3) Indian chief with pink lace.





What are you hoping for in your Blackbeard and Dream Lover cross?
I would love to see someone use Muppet in their hybridizing. It would be nice to see its blending on Missouri Mist.
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 23, 2021 5:20 PM CST
GreenIris said:>Aqua x Fly Butterfly
>Beauty Within(if it's still alive) with anything blooming at the same time that is beautiful
>Butterfly Affair with anything blooming at the time that is green or semi-green




I would love to see Butterfly Affair crossed with something greenish too. There is one in the database that sounds interesting from the description but I cannot find any photos
Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Chuhaister')
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 23, 2021 5:26 PM CST
Ratchet - Your bronze NoId sounds like an interesting parent Thumbs up .
Lucy - I love the subtle colours of Quogue Lovey dubby
Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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creativeclover
Nov 23, 2021 5:41 PM CST
Totally_Amazing said:




What are you hoping for in your Blackbeard and Dream Lover cross?
I would love to see someone use Muppet in their hybridizing. It would be nice to see its blending on Missouri Mist.


I think dream lover and black beard would be an interesting cross and have some interesting child plants.
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Region: New Mexico Region: United States of America Irises Region: Southwest Gardening Dog Lover
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GreenIris
Nov 23, 2021 7:35 PM CST
Missouri Mist is very pretty!!! I too really like Quogue. Very curious where that name came from.

Robin, how bout your Cross Dreams. You have produced some real beauties!!! Also yes, Chuheister sounds wonderful!!

Also, thanks for the tips Rachet!!!
I think the people who grow Irises are about as special as the flower itself!
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 23, 2021 8:14 PM CST
Here is the Noid. I see it as Bronze. That is because of the veining. It is my absolute favorite Iris of all time but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, aye? I would name it "Simply Elegant."
I want Brown/Bronze tailored Iris. Sans Souci is an optional parent.
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I would load an image for Sans Souci but I don't know how to do that from the Database.

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Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Totally_Amazing
Nov 23, 2021 10:43 PM CST
Elsa - I have been dreaming about putting blue or purple beards on Diamond Necklace
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I'd like to keep the Debbie Rairdon pattern, and thought Don't Stop Believing might be a good iris to cross it with.

They are about a week apart from blooming together. I wish I remembered to get some pollen from Diamond Necklace before it finished blooming.

I also want to create an iris like Circus Stripes with nice form and strong stems. I have not figured out which irises I need to achieve this.
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Nov 23, 2021 10:59 PM CST
All great ideas.
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 24, 2021 1:07 AM CST
Richard,
Pink Lace is beautiful! Crossing that with Indian Chief seems a very good idea.
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Name: Richard
Joshua Tree (Zone 9a)
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creativeclover
Nov 24, 2021 2:49 AM CST
Ratchet,

With Indian chief and pink lace, my hope with that one would be one that kinda like cats eye on the bottom. It would be the Burgandy center color with with pinkish peach type of border and that a broken, then a peachier pink and light purple strips on top.
Name: Ratchet
Southeastern AZ (Zone 8b)
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ratchet
Nov 24, 2021 8:55 AM CST
Richard
A cat's eye Iris is possible, certainly. Hybrid Irises are amazingly versatile in range.
Except..geranium red.
A deep rose tailored self is certainly possible but I haven't seen one. A red-gold tailored self is possible but I haven't seen one.
That is my goal. That bronze has two colors that make it interesting to me, dusty rose and red-gold.
What can be crossed to obtain a rose and a gold, I am not certain, but I am researching the possibilities.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Name: Richard
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creativeclover
Nov 24, 2021 10:56 AM CST
Ratchet, it's always interesting to try. nothing ventured nothing gained.

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