Roses forum: Heirloom Faux Pas

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2010 1:30 AM CST

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Heirloom sent me this rose five years ago when I ordered Gloire de Dijon. It most certainly is not the rose I ordered, but it is a once-bloomer and although it arrived as a toothpick and stayed below a foot for the first three years, it recently has grown to be a veritable monster of a climber.


Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2010 1:31 AM CST

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Here's a closeup of a bloom. The rose has killer thorns.


Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 10, 2010 1:32 AM CST

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Here's another bloom.


Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 12, 2010 5:04 PM CST
I love the casual petal arrangement and clear pink color. I wonder who it is?
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Calif_Sue
Jul 12, 2010 7:00 PM CST

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New Dawn?
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jul 12, 2010 10:11 PM CST
My New Dawn repeat blooms, sparingly, has fewer petals, I think, and is a paler pink. It's one of my favorites. The thorns and vigor match though!
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 12, 2010 10:49 PM CST

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No. I have New Dawn and it doesn't look like it. As Porkpal said, New Dawn has fewer petals and reblooms.
Name: Steve
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Steve812
Jul 13, 2010 5:09 PM CST
I don't suppose there is any chance it is Queen Elizabeth?

I notice Columbia was on their list long ago. And Grand Hotel, and Mme Abel Chatenay, other LF rose in that shade of pink, roughly speaking.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 13, 2010 6:01 PM CST

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No, it's a once-bloomer, so it can't be any of those, Steve.

It actually acts like Gloire de Dijon, sending out 15-foot canes in every direction, but it's the wrong color. I don't really think it was mislabeled. I think Heirloom thought it was Gloire de Dijon, but was mistaken.
Name: aka GardenQuilts
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Andi
Jul 15, 2010 3:48 AM CST
What about Albertine? I haven't seen it in person, but ran across it researching climbing old garden roses.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose...
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 15, 2010 11:08 AM CST

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Andi, I think you might be right. That's a very, very good guess.

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