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Aug 13, 2021 11:45 AM CST
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I'll try posting the link again, if it doesn't work this is the information it give.
https://sempervivum-liste.de/d...

Coral Red®
Breeder
Jef Gielis ( B )
Year
2018
ID
2211
Genus
Sempervivum
Classification
S. arachnoid - Mutation
Certification this data set was directly compared with the breeder

EU 48565 ('belsemred1'PBR) (plant patent in EU and US)

United States Plant Patent PDF

According to breeder Jef Gielis, 'Coral Red' is a mutation of 'silver carnelian'
https://sempervivum-liste.de/s...
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Aug 14, 2021 7:55 PM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Nelli,

Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad the book has inspired you to obtain more semps. Perennial Obsessions has many cool ones as do the other nurseries listed on our site.

and yes nothing with pollen is safe in my yard. It keeps life interesting.

Kevin
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Aug 17, 2021 3:29 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
IN (Zone 6b)
valleylynn said:Hi Nelli. Welcome to the Sempervivum forum at NGA. Glad you found your way here.

It seems that we have more of these companies renaming semps. It becomes very confusing. It seems Colorockz is a registered marketing name. Like Chick Charms. Looking at the semps that Quality Cuttings offers, some show an original name and other don't. Some don't look correct
https://qualitycuttings.com/pa...

I'll see what I can find out.
I did find this about the red one:
https://sempervivum-liste.de/d...


The colorockz are new semps by Jef at Fabulous Fat friends. Patents can be pulled for both of the plants. They are have a yellow one that is patented but not released yet.
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Aug 17, 2021 4:44 PM CST
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Aug 18, 2021 7:55 AM CST
St. Louis area, MO
Lynn, Nathaniel, Kevin,
Thanks again for your help.

Alex,
Yes! My plant "want" list has greatly skyrocketed!!!! So many choices.
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Jan 19, 2022 7:32 AM CST

Hi,

Al Sempervivum Colorockz plants are new own varieties. No double names or marketing names.

We have for now on,

Sempervivum Coral Red ('Belsemred1'PBR)
Sempervivum Arctic White ('Belsemcob2'PBR)
Sempervivum Emerald Swirl ('Belsemgre1'PBR)
Sempervivum Summer Frost ('Belsemcob1'PBR)
Sempervivum Ruby Lime ('Belsemcha1'PBR)

More to come!

Sold in EU in our own Belgicactus nursery under > fabulousfatfriends . com
Website colorockz under construction. www.colorockz.eu Marketing and promotion Plantipp

In US, other nurseries bring these varieties on the market for us.
regards Jef.
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Jan 19, 2022 2:19 PM CST
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@JefGielisColorrockz
Jef thank you for all the information.
I have split this into its own thread so it's easy to find with all the information here.
As soon as my computer is back from being repaired I will set these up in the database
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Jan 21, 2022 12:44 PM CST
Name: Nathaniel
IN (Zone 6b)
@JefGielisColorockz, Have these two made it over to the states yet?
Sempervivum Emerald Swirl ('Belsemgre1'PBR)
Sempervivum Summer Frost ('Belsemcob1'PBR)

I have not seen them before, but I could have easily missed them. As a side note, I saw my 1st picture of Ruby Lime on Facebook yesterday. I am excited that I ordered one already!
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Jan 21, 2022 12:47 PM CST
Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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JungleShadows said:Nelli,

Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad the book has inspired you to obtain more semps. Perennial Obsessions has many cool ones as do the other nurseries listed on our site.

and yes nothing with pollen is safe in my yard. It keeps life interesting.

Kevin


Kevin, any new Hostas coming up?
As Yogi Berra said, “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
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Jan 22, 2022 9:55 AM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
No, I only have a few hosta seedlings and nothing nearing introduction. Too many tree roots here in my shade areas to really grow lots of seedlings.

Kevin
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Jan 24, 2022 10:01 AM CST
St. Louis area, MO
Thank you again Jef for the information. I will have to look those up!
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Feb 17, 2022 9:37 PM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I have not forgotten about adding Colorockz to the database. I still don't have my computer working.
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Feb 18, 2022 9:47 AM CST
Name: Nathaniel
IN (Zone 6b)
Here is a link to pictures of all of the ones that are patented.

https://www.fabulousfatfriends...
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Feb 18, 2022 10:20 AM CST
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Name: Lynn
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Thank you Nathaniel.
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Jun 8, 2022 7:16 AM CST

Small quantities for tests. but they are coming.

ndmpkt13 said: @JefGielisColorockz, Have these two made it over to the states yet?
Sempervivum Emerald Swirl ('Belsemgre1'PBR)
Sempervivum Summer Frost ('Belsemcob1'PBR)

I have not seen them before, but I could have easily missed them. As a side note, I saw my 1st picture of Ruby Lime on Facebook yesterday. I am excited that I ordered one already!
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Jun 8, 2022 8:37 AM CST
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Good morning, Jeff thank you for the update.
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Jun 8, 2022 8:44 AM CST
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I do have a question, I know Colorockz® Coral Red is a sport of 'Silberkarneol', is there a parent that can be listed for 'Artic White'?
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